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Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

Yep...and you are presenting yourself with the same credibility and viability as any other single issue voter. I hope at the very least you are a tea party supporter

Logic and common sense don't be strong characteristics of libertarians.
 
Ive equated being a libertarian to peeing your pants

Wow! And you like doing that in your pants?

Sorry, but I just could not pass up that line. LOL!
 
How many seats have you flipped since 2008? If you believe what you say, carry on, you are doing a great job as your attitude should lead to a filibuster proof Senate for the Republicans in 2012 along with the WH.

You have to accept that the Libertarians have opened the door for the Tea Party movement within the GOP nd that has caused about 60 seats to go fiscally conservative GOP.
 
You helped. And, that helped us get ObamaCare. Be proud of your vote.

So I can affect the system then, eh? Good. Now appease me or continue to lose.
 
Wow! And you like doing that in your pants?

Sorry, but I just could not pass up that line. LOL!

If I didnt have a sense of humor i wouldnt have brought it up. ;-)
 
How many seats have you flipped since 2008? If you believe what you say, carry on, you are doing a great job as your attitude should lead to a filibuster proof Senate for the Republicans in 2012 along with the WH.

Proving my point again.....
 
You have to accept that the Libertarians have opened the door for the Tea Party movement within the GOP nd that has caused about 60 seats to go fiscally conservative GOP.

there is much I like about Libertarians but will never understand how any Libertarian can sit around and watch what Obama is doing to the economy and the govt. Survey the situation and if you don't have a chance, the last thing I would do is vote for a third party and allow Obama another four years. That doesn't make any sense.
 
Logic and common sense don't be strong characteristics of libertarians.

What do you base that idea on? And would you characterize the majority of dem/gop muppets/voters as being 'thoughtful'?
 
Keep spinning. Every time you guys flip a seat, it means that "the whole country is going to start voting Republican." It's one seat in a special election, and like you said, this guy ran a year ago and lost. Everybody already knew his name.

It was about Weiner just like Jimmy Carter was about Nixon, and Bush (to some extent) was about Clinton, and Obama was about Bush. None of them had to actually run against the guy they beat.

I think what you are missing is what pushes the buttons in a large segment of the voters in this district. That is our relationship with Israel.

I am sure Obama and his advisers understand that is what causes this result. Also unlike issues that people forget about over time like Dodd-Frank, this one has been hammered home since Obama took office and will not be easy to overcome.

This issue does not have national impact but in a couple of battleground states like Florida or Penn. this could be make or break for Obama.
 
I can't support the Republocrat offerings, those are not my best alternative.

Hey, Conservative, do you think we should come up with a juvenile name for libertarians?
 
What do you base that idea on? And would you characterize the majority of dem/gop muppets/voters as being 'thoughtful'?

I posted the numeric facts and when you don't have a mathematical chance of winning why would you allow someone like Obama to win election?
 
Hey, Conservative, do you think we should come up with a juvenile name for libertarians?

There is a lot I like about Libertarian issues but I see naive and illogical as descriptions of many Libertarians.
 
This issue does not have national impact but in a couple of battleground states like Florida or Penn. this could be make or break for Obama.

Doubt it. The "Israel is always right" crowd didn't vote for Obama anyway.
 
but will never understand how any Libertarian can sit around and watch what Obama is doing to the economy and the govt. Survey the situation and if you don't have a chance, the last thing I would do is vote for a third party and allow Obama another four years. That doesn't make any sense.

It's very simple. Because if not Obama, then some Republican who will act similarly enough to not make that much of a difference anyway. If your stuck with broken, there's no reason to go about supporting it. You think it's logical for us to back the Republicans instead of trying to get our own platform recognized. But the Republicans are part of the same problem the Democrats are. Why would you assume we'd support the lesser of two evils when we do not wish to see the evil at all?
 
there is much I like about Libertarians but will never understand how any Libertarian can sit around and watch what Obama is doing to the economy and the govt. Survey the situation and if you don't have a chance, the last thing I would do is vote for a third party and allow Obama another four years. That doesn't make any sense.

Many of us left the GOP not because of Barrack Obama but because of the wreckless and irresponsible legislation of Bush and republicans. Obama was still a crack smokin state rep when I became a libertarian. Until one party demonstrates in action that they are invested in the strength of our nation and not all about gettin reelected, I'm done with them. If more took that position it would force change.
 
Keep spinning. Every time you guys flip a seat, it means that "the whole country is going to start voting Republican." It's one seat in a special election, and like you said, this guy ran a year ago and lost. Everybody already knew his name.

It was about Weiner just like Jimmy Carter was about Nixon, and Bush (to some extent) was about Clinton, and Obama was about Bush. None of them had to actually run against the guy they beat.

Who's spinning? Either that or a desperate attempt to persuade others your ship isn't sinking? When Jewish voters start voting for a Republican the "handwriting is on the wall." Here's a dose of reality for you.

Republican wins Democratic district in New York race to replace Weiner - CNN.com

Koch, a Democratic Jew, hoped his support would send a message to the White House that Jewish Americans were dissatisfied with Obama's policies on Israel -- namely the president's position that a future Mideast peace solution requires Israel to return to its pre-1967 borders, with land swaps.

"I like President Obama ... I helped get him elected," Koch said at Turner's election night party. "But he threw Israel under the bus."

His remarks were met by cheers from the crowd, including one man who shouted, "He's a sell-out!"

Koch's nod pivoted the race into a relentless competition over who was a stronger supporter of Israel: Turner, a conservative Republican, or Weprin, an orthodox Jew.

Minutes after the election, the Republican Jewish Coalition released a statement in support of Turner.

"Jewish voters are coming to see that Republicans offer real solutions to our economic crisis, are resolute friends of Israel, and represent a way forward to a better future," said executive director Matt Brooks.
 
So I can affect the system then, eh? Good. Now appease me or continue to lose.

I said in a much earlier posting that votes have consequences.
 
It's very simple. Because if not Obama, then some Republican who will act similarly enough to not make that much of a difference anyway. If your stuck with broken, there's no reason to go about supporting it. You think it's logical for use to back the Republicans instead of trying to get our own platform recognized. But the Republicans are part of the same problem the Democrats are. Why would you assume we'd support the lesser of two evils when we do not wish to see the evil at all?

Because the lessor of two evils wouldn't have passed Obamacare, bailed out unions, expanded the role of the Federal govt. and generated the results we have today with 25 plus million unemployed Americans. The lessor of two evils would haven't forced higher expenses on the states and given taxpayer money to corporations like Solyndra and GE just because they are big supporters of Obama.
 
I posted the numeric facts and when you don't have a mathematical chance of winning why would you allow someone like Obama to win election?

We have ready addressed this. Because a choice between retard A and retard B still leaves you with a retard. Id rather see a gop house and senate and a president Obama than a financially corrupt GOP house, senate, and white house.
 
I said in a much earlier posting that votes have consequences.

They certainly do. You should use yours to move your party in a way which can recapture lost votes. Or lose. The choice is yours.
 
Many of us left the GOP not because of Barrack Obama but because of the wreckless and irresponsible legislation of Bush and republicans. Obama was still a crack smokin state rep when I became a libertarian. Until one party demonstrates in action that they are invested in the strength of our nation and not all about gettin reelected, I'm done with them. If more took that position it would force change.

How is that "Hope and Change" working out for you? How are you going to change the brainwashed, braindead, and clueless? What is the obama approval rating today?
 
It's very simple. Because if not Obama, then some Republican who will act similarly enough to not make that much of a difference anyway. If your stuck with broken, there's no reason to go about supporting it. You think it's logical for us to back the Republicans instead of trying to get our own platform recognized. But the Republicans are part of the same problem the Democrats are. Why would you assume we'd support the lesser of two evils when we do not wish to see the evil at all?

Whooomp, there it is.
People blindly support passage of legislation they have never read. They support candidates they cant even identify. Both parties.
 
We have ready addressed this. Because a choice between retard A and retard B still leaves you with a retard. Id rather see a gop house and senate and a president Obama than a financially corrupt GOP house, senate, and white house.

That is exactly the approach Obama and Democrats rely on. What policies that Obama has implemented would Retard B(McCain) have implemented?
 
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