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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010



    Looks like a photo op of dumb**** scooping slop for the poor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    Wait... because a number of people live in a manner -you- cannot imagine, a revolution brews?
    That ivory tower must be nice.
    I don't understand. Are you saying that high levels of income inequality and poverty are not associated with political instability? You could say that... you'd just be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Capitalism needs the people to be educated and informed and to purchase and vote with a careful consideration of the future they want to leave to their children.
    Ok, so what's plan B?
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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    When poverty went up 2001-2002-2003, the liberals were quick to blame Bush.
    Where is their criticism of The Obama?
    The same place as the Conservative criticism of Bush.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That mechanism would make it something very different than capitalism. Capitalism needs the people to be educated and informed and to purchase and vote with a careful consideration of the future they want to leave to their children. In short, if capitalism needs a regulator, it has to be the people. If it's government, it ceases to be capitalism.

    An educated, informed populace is the last thing capitalism wants. What capitalism needs to succeed are lots of obedient workers who don't demand much money. That's why China's economy is exploding. When your population gets educated, they start wanting a more rational system, like in Europe.
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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    In short, if capitalism needs a regulator, it has to be the people. If it's government, it ceases to be capitalism.
    Government regulation should favor public interest. If it's not capitalism when the government puts forward regulations in favor of public interest then who needs capitalism?
    "It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this." Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    An educated, informed populace is the last thing capitalism wants. What capitalism needs to succeed are lots of obedient workers who don't demand much money.
    You're equating capitalism with large scale production. There's a consumption dynamic in capitalist economies that leftists refuse to admit exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    If it's not capitalism when the government puts forward regulations in favor of public interest then who needs capitalism?
    People who want to be able to protect any of their wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nijato View Post
    Ok, so what's plan B?
    Don't let people protect their wealth or decide anything for themselves.
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 09-13-11 at 09:32 PM.

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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    You're equating capitalism with large scale production. There's a consumption dynamic in capitalist economies that leftists refuse to admit exists.
    Sure. So you have 10 or 15 percent of the population that does the consuming, and everyone else does the producing. Or at least, that seems to be the system that conservatives are working towards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    Sure. So you have 10 or 15 percent of the population that does the consuming, and everyone else does the producing. Or at least, that seems to be the system that conservatives are working towards.
    Huh? Yeah I think you have that backwards. Very few produce. Nearly everyone consumes. Our government pays people to keep consuming who don't really produce.

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