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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm not saying that we'll ever have 0% poverty. But if anybody is implying that because we can't achieve that goal we shouldn't bother trying I'd have to respectfully disagree. We will always have high schools kids, ambitionless aimless adults, and bored housewives who want simple, part-time, no stress jobs. Minimum wage and low skilled jobs are not the sole property of those in poverty.

    We will also always have unemployment. Most economists think that "full employment" exists with unemployment is at about 4%. That doesn't mean that we can't help many or most of those in poverty through a restructuring of the welfare system.

    The idea that there's no point because obstacles exist (which seems to be the flack I'm getting from many posters) doesn't make much sense. Nobody is looking for a program with a 100% perfect turn-around, but I think a lot of people would admit that we can create a program that does better than the status quo.
    No one has suggested that poverty can be eliminated. Only that jobs are required to reduce poverty.
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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    No one has suggested that poverty can be eliminated. Only that jobs are required to reduce poverty.
    And I never said otherwise. Not once. Literally NEVER. I just think it's pretty damned stupid to act as though saying, "WE NEED JOBS!!!! IT'S ALL ABOUT JOBS!!!" addresses even HALF of the poverty problem.
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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    ok.

    What was the point of saying: "I'm not saying that we'll ever have 0% poverty. . . The idea that there's no point because obstacles exist (which seems to be the flack I'm getting from many posters) doesn't make much sense. Nobody is looking for a program with a 100% perfect turn-around"?
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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Would the top quartile of welfare dependency suffice? Do i have to now define top quartile? You are arguing semantics.
    How is that measured? If you have 8 kids and all are on welfare and your daughter only has 3 kids with all on welfare, does that place the mother in the "highly dependant" catagory and not the daughter?

    How is it measured?

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    Re: U.S. Poverty Climbed to 17-Year High in 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's your call of course. But the study referenced likey defines what they mean by the terms they use, and give a methodology. If they don't, they can be criticised for that. But, all conclusions we draw are subject to asking for some backing.
    I looked for it. I couldn't find it. Granted I only did about 4 google pages. I found a few references to it, but not the study.

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