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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

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    Isn't a third party, aka, Barrack Obama, claiming that he knows what "fair" is?
    As do fox news pundits.

    As well, many of his supporters will make the same claim, though they are actually quite fuzzy on what those percentages might be.
    Is this an opinion, or do you have facts to back up your statement?See how lame that kinda off top post can be?
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, ok, you gave countries, now what makes them successful and what are your standards? You want China's labor rates and pollution? You want European economic growth and unemployment. How about European tax rates? The grass is always greener some place else until you get there.
    Actually, you are the who asked for successful socialist countries. What are your standards and what makes them successful in your eyes?
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They may be, but it is a fact that we are paying less attention ourselves eslewhere and business is going to where they can be less careful. And roughshod is your word, not mine. You don't have to runroughshod over a willing partner. The fact is, we are doing damage and don't have to worry as much about it as they would here. You know this is true.
    Worrying "about it as much as they would here" is very unlikely as the US has become paranoid to the extreme. We all want clean water, etc. but the lengths the US has gone to puts people out of work and does no real good in the long run. When the possibility of a bird's nest being disturbed causes an entire shut down, or regulations become so stifling that human interaction is made difficult, then you know that that a bridge has been crossed which makes business, and life in general, just too difficult.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    it's been shown before. let me give you some links to read, though you could do your own search.
    You know, I really do tend to read links which tend to support a position taken but they should be serious and unbiased. Such is not the case with the link you sent. When snarky comments are included with whatever points they are trying to make then it should be disqualified for serious consideration.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Worrying "about it as much as they would here" is very unlikely as the US has become paranoid to the extreme. We all want clean water, etc. but the lengths the US has gone to puts people out of work and does no real good in the long run. When the possibility of a bird's nest being disturbed causes an entire shut down, or regulations become so stifling that human interaction is made difficult, then you know that that a bridge has been crossed which makes business, and life in general, just too difficult.
    By all means feel free to show this in significant numbers. Would you like to see some of the destruction around the world? hows that clean water thing doing everywhere?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You know, I really do tend to read links which tend to support a position taken but they should be serious and unbiased. Such is not the case with the link you sent. When snarky comments are included with whatever points they are trying to make then it should be disqualified for serious consideration.
    I gave you a few links from different places. But as I keep telling people, bias means nothing. It is accuracy that counts. I only discount a source when it becomes inaccurate. Forbes, for example, is biased, but often accurate. Same with WSJ. If you can show something is inaccurate, please do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post

    As do fox news pundits.
    Really? What are their names?



    Is this an opinion, or do you have facts to back up your statement?
    Yes, I do.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You know, I really do tend to read links which tend to support a position taken but they should be serious and unbiased. Such is not the case with the link you sent. When snarky comments are included with whatever points they are trying to make then it should be disqualified for serious consideration.
    A few more:

    One is that rich economies seem to provide disproportionate and growing returns to the already wealthy

    Should the government do more to close the gap between rich and poor? | The Economist

    But one big part of the reason we have so much inequality is that the top 1 percent want it that way. The most obvious example involves tax policy. Lowering tax rates on capital gains, which is how the rich receive a large portion of their income, has given the wealthiest Americans close to a free ride. Monopolies and near monopolies have always been a source of economic power—from John D. Rockefeller at the beginning of the last century to Bill Gates at the end.

    Of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1% | Society | Vanity Fair

    The Top 10 Tax Breaks -- And How They Help The Wealthy The Most
    The Top 10 Tax Breaks -- And How They Help The Wealthy The Most

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    By all means feel free to show this in significant numbers. Would you like to see some of the destruction around the world? hows that clean water thing doing everywhere?
    "Significant numbers" is very much the same as "fair". Unfortunately, both are whatver you want it to be. One can not disprove your opinion here.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    "Significant numbers" is very much the same as "fair". Unfortunately, both are whatver you want it to be. One can not disprove your opinion here.
    Something that happens once is not siginficant. Say we're talking about gun safety. If something is over done by one person, that doesn't make it a problem. As we've seen, you can someone somewhere doing almost anything stupid that can be thought of. But that doesn't make it a national problem. There has to be some standard other than Bob did it so we have to assume it is everywhere.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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