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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Seems obvious that OBama knows the republican house will never OK the tax increases. He's not even serious about the jobs bill. just interested in playing politics... you know... as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    This ignores the possibility that, without deep cuts, things would not even back out. Saying we need to fix our budget problems without controlling spending is like trying to sober up without stopping drinking.



    Who in DC is saying anything about spending cuts???

    Let's get serious. Raising taxes in any significant way is political suicide, and cutting spending in any significant way is political suicide. Stop trusting these clowns. They are driving us off a cliff.
    Mostly saying that the severity of the theoretical cuts could be eased with a revenue increase.

    Agree with you here on your points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the top rates would still be historically low even if the rates were rolled back to the 90s. austerity measures aren't just appropriate for European countries which are in debt, and we need people working as soon as possible.

    the Obama plan isn't enough on its own; we need to take a serious look at our trade agreements, and we should consider even more preferential rates for corporations who hire a high percentage of their workforces domestically.
    you are 100% correct. our trade agreements are crappy! The chinese are killing us. Pandas plan of racing the rich more is crap and won't do anything. we are also keep ing medicare and social security off the table...our number one spender. We need reform

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    What a travesty!

    The idea of making wealthier Americans pay just a little extra in taxes (temporarily) so we can have some short term cash to help fix some of our budgetary and economic problems is just sickening. It warrants a giant complaining session in fact.

    Look, I'm all for lowering taxes at times when it makes sense strategically, but this is not one of them. Let's try to fix our budget without making deep cuts to programs that may be the difference between life or death for some folks, and then reassess the situation when when things even back out.

    I don't think an approach based on revenue increases and spending cuts is a crazy idea.
    Sounds very similar to the plan he proposed in 2009 when he had a filibuster proof Senate to fund Obamacare that was defeated. What ever happened to the proposals from the Bowles/Simpson commission ordered by Obama. Guess the attack the rich wasn't part of the recommended proposals thus was discarded. Anyone who thinks this guy was qualified to be President is out of touch with reality. He is an incompetent empty suit

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Seems obvious that OBama knows the republican house will never OK the tax increases. He's not even serious about the jobs bill. just interested in playing politics... you know... as usual.
    Why does it seem "obvious that OBama knows the republican house will never OK the tax increases "?
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Why does it seem "obvious that OBama knows the republican house will never OK the tax increases "?

    Ok, personally, I think they ought to go ahead and pass it, then turn around in a year when this one doesn't work either, and say ok Obama, this is YOUR failed economy, we gave you what you wanted and you failed, so buh, bye now.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by 305rob305 View Post
    you are 100% correct. our trade agreements are crappy! The chinese are killing us. Pandas plan of racing the rich more is crap and won't do anything. we are also keep ing medicare and social security off the table...our number one spender. We need reform
    labor will be a race to the bottom until we level the manufacturing / trade fields. foreign manufacturers can risk workers' lives and health, as well as the lives and health of those living in the vicinity and still export to our market tariff free. after China, it will be less developed countries with sweatshop labor. products made under those conditions need to be tariffed.

    Obama is right on infrastructure. it needs to be an even bolder plan than what he is proposing. it needs to include energy / the electrical grid, as well.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, personally, I think they ought to go ahead and pass it, then turn around in a year when this one doesn't work either, and say ok Obama, this is YOUR failed economy, we gave you what you wanted and you failed, so buh, bye now.

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    I think the American people are smart enough to know that this bull****, "jobs", bill won't work, without passing it.
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, personally, I think they ought to go ahead and pass it, then turn around in a year when this one doesn't work either, and say ok Obama, this is YOUR failed economy, we gave you what you wanted and you failed, so buh, bye now.

    j-mac

    Sounds like were on the same page on this one. if it went off as planned would you vote for Obama?
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Most people want others to pay more taxes so they don't have to. Its why the progressive income tax scheme works for politicians. Buy the votes of the many with the money of the few



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