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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Here is how these polls go: "Hey person who isn't going to get his taxes raised, how about we raise taxes on these rich guys. Person says hey, that would be a great idea."

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    That was your statement, not mine. I never stated that anything should be made illegal; only that a proper way to deal with obesity is to increase tax junk food. The only person who brought up illegality was you!
    So you have no problem with the govt. collecting revenue on something you think is harmful to the public? Why not just make it illegal?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    UPS and Fed Ex are doing fine.
    Next line: Government is incompetent.

    So, now private is better.

    But private can't compete with government.

    But government is incompetent.

    I feel a headache coming on.


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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Incrementalism, rough, incrementalism, you crawl before you walk. No private business can compete with govt.
    Private business doesn't have to compete. Read the bill if you don't believe me but I can't sit here all day repeating this for the unpteenth time, I gots **** to do later. Obamacare isn't competing with private insurance, it is entirely built upon the idea that you need to take care of yourself by going and buying private insurance from a privately owned insurance company. That's like complaining that the government has taken over all residential construction because the government won't give you a building permit until you get a privately owned architect to draw up some plans for you. The government is in no way competing with the insurance companies, they are helping them if anything by giving them more customers.

    If you can't grasp that concept then everything else we could debate about is pointless because this is a simple concept and you need to understand it before I can learn you any better bro.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you have no problem with the govt. collecting revenue on something you think is harmful to the public? Why not just make it illegal?
    Because libs today are following Cass Sustein's theory laid out in the book Nudge.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Next line: Government is incompetent.

    So, now private is better.

    But private can't compete with government.

    But government is incompetent.

    I feel a headache coming on.

    Business kicks governments arse when it comes to efficiency, and profit. The only way government competes is through subsidy, and force.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What else is new, other than the amount Obama now says is the evil "rich" just went down to $200K from $250K....Funny how that keeps creeping down...

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    This is like going to the Oprah show and winning a car but then you have to pay taxes on it. Just a load of crap, anybody who believes in this scam has lost his/hers marvels.
    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Here is how these polls go: "Hey person who isn't going to get his taxes raised, how about we raise taxes on these rich guys. Person says hey, that would be a great idea."
    Washington Post-ABC News Poll (washingtonpost.com)
    17. In order to reduce the national debt, would you support or oppose [ITEM]? Do you feel that way STRONGLY or SOMEWHAT?

    4/17/11 Summary Table

    ------ Support ------ ------- Oppose ----- No
    NET....Strngly....Smwht....NET....Smwht....Strngly ....op.

    a. Cutting spending on Medicaid,
    which is the government health
    insurance program for the poor 30 14 16 69 17 52 2

    b. Cutting spending on Medicare,
    which is the government health
    insurance program for the elderly 21 8 13 78 13 65 1

    c. Cutting military spending 42 22 20 56 15 41 2

    d. Raising taxes on Americans
    with incomes over 250-thousand
    dollars a year
    72 .... 54 .... 18 .... 27 .... 10 .... 17 .... 1

    This is supposed to be the exact wording of the poll. Not anything like what you've suggested. I believe that you are very mistaken on what happens during polling.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Tell that to Warren Buffett and Henry Block. They make more in a day than you'll make in your lifetime and they're all for jacking up tax rates on the rich.

    It's seem that while Mr. Buffett might mouth that opinion, he really doesn't believe in what he says ..

    Berkshire Hathaway, the eighth-largest public company in the world according to Forbes, openly admits to still owing taxes for years 2002 through 2004 and 2005 through 2009, according to the New York Post. The company says it expects to "resolve all adjustments proposed by the US Internal Revenue Service" within the next year.

    Of course many liberals are the same, they feel that the rich should be paying more, but of course as long as they aren't included. So much for Buffett's mouthing of what is right huh ?? still owes taxes from 9 years ago ...
    guess he felt he was taxed enough that he didn't pay the taxes he does owe..... ohhh I know .. it must be he is fighting the IRS ... to pay more then what they are asking huh?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So corporate welfare according to the libs in the know here all defer to some dictionary definition. But fail to explain how it is that only some corporations should have their plug pulled on this, while others get to suckle massively, go bankrupt, and everyone ignores that.

    How is that fair? How is that America?

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    Exactly the opposite. Corporate welfare is given to a few corporations that play the extortion game while those that play by the rules suffer. Close the corporate tax loopholes that benefit the few and end corporate welfare.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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