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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Ok sure:

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    LOL, ok, you gave countries, now what makes them successful and what are your standards? You want China's labor rates and pollution? You want European economic growth and unemployment. How about European tax rates? The grass is always greener some place else until you get there.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Wow, you're a winner dude, lol.

    Socialized medicine: all doctors and hospitals are government owned and are government employees. The government produces and distributes medicine or buys medicine and distributes it.

    ObamaCare: Pay a fine unless you buy a healthcare plan from BlueCross or another provider, which are entirely private companies that are in no way owned by the government, that allow you to receive care from private practice and privately owned doctor's and hospitals, that are in no way owned by the government.

    That's how far off you are in fairytale land dude. If this were a test you'd have to be graded incomplete because they just haven't figured out a grade for someone that spent the entire three hours trying to bubble his name into the scantron sheet and was still only half way there.
    How do you know what Obamacare will cost or do? Have you followed the costs of the MA plan and the shortage of doctors thus the drain on the ER services? Do you ever do any research to verify what you are being told. Let me know a successful liberal social program that cost what it was supposed to do, did what it was supposed to do, solved a problem, and then went away? All I see is another group of arrogant liberals who blamed the previous group of arrogant liberals for not spending enough money in the right areas.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, next we will get scales put in every house and the federal weight monitors that go around weighing people. Is that what you were taught the role of the Federal govt. was?
    How on earth did you get the quote above from:

    Here is something Obama is trying to implement (and it is part of the euromodel); the end of obesity! The size of some of my "fellow Americans" is not as embarrassing as it is a strain on the long term sustainability of our health care system.
    Is that how you became semi retired at age 27 promoting massive growth and overreach by the Federal Govt? Where does it stop in your world?
    No.

    I built an industrial protective coatings company and sold it. How was your question relevant?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Goldenboy219;1059794465]How on earth did you get the quote above from:
    you raised the issue of Obesity so how do you enforce those standards without putting scales in everyone's home and then have the scale monitors.


    No.

    I built an industrial protective coatings company and sold it. How was your question relevant?
    So you took advantage of the capitalist economy that we have, Good for you. now you have yours and want to destroy incentive for others to get theirs? How does increasing govt. spending increase incentive for anyone, i.e. increasing unemployment insurance, cutting SS and Medicare taxes, raising taxes on the rich?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You know oil and gas, hedge funds, and people with individual income over 200K don't really come to mind when I think "who should get a tax break with the amount of federal debt that exists." Don't get me wrong, I don't like taxes, but the simple fact is that to cut the debt we need BOTH spending cuts AND tax increases, there's no way around it.


    this right here is a perfect example of how flawed republican thinking is. automatically they point out Obama as the bad person who's trying to raise your taxes, but what some of the people don't seem to understand, it's that it's for people making $250,000 a year, and would they make over 1,000,000, they'd get taxed a little higher.

    there's more than one way to help stimulate the economy, other than "cutting spending". we need to increase taxes on the rich in order to bring revenues back.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    you raised the issue of Obesity so how do you enforce those standards without putting scales in everyone's home and then have the scale monitors.
    Simple: increase taxes on junk food.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Simple: increase taxes on junk food.
    Where does it stop? Why single out junk food. That isn't the Federal Government's role. Why not outlaw junk food? sounds to me like a revenue grab to me.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where does it stop? Why single out junk food. That isn't the Federal Government's role. Why not outlaw junk food? sounds to me like a revenue grab to me.
    So I assume you were against Perry raising taxes on cigarettes, correrct?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Where does it stop? Why single out junk food. That isn't the Federal Government's role. Why not outlaw junk food? sounds to me like a revenue grab to me.
    You fat, bro?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So I assume you were against Perry raising taxes on cigarettes, correrct?

    Correct, if it is that harmful make it illegal.

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