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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Opinion pieces are of little value as a source.



    You couldn't help yourself, could ya? I explicitly stated:
    What you fail to acknowledge is the size of the GDP, population growth, and unemployment rates in socialist countries. Why would anyone want that here?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you fail to acknowledge is the size of the GDP, population growth, and unemployment rates in socialist countries. Why would anyone want that here?
    Why are you asking me, already stated that i do not advocate that model nor believe it is capable of working here in the U.S. Do you understand how/why the bold is a fallacy?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Why are you asking me, already stated that i do not advocate that model nor believe it is capable of working here in the U.S. Do you understand how/why the bold is a fallacy?
    Are you sure that isn't what Obama is trying to do here? What is it that obama is implementing that isn't part of the European model? Higher taxes, more govt. control and responsibility, socialized medicine, expansion of social safety net?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    How about we get the other half of the country to pay any federal payroll taxes whatsoever? There's a start for your side of the debate.
    Super Erod, now with the ability to leap logic in a single bound, fast enough to not let any information actually catch up with him, flying at the speed of RNC talking points...

    You get trounced on a topic and just switch over to another talking point. How sad and predictable... all at once.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you have a problem with the dictionary definition? you still havent answered the question yet...why the outrage against one but not the other?
    Both should end, right?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Civilized Society? Civilized society supports socialized Medicine? Name for me a successful socialist country in the world? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty in the face of failures all over the world. I call that arrogance or stupidity.
    Wow, you're a winner dude, lol.

    Socialized medicine: all doctors and hospitals are government owned and are government employees. The government produces and distributes medicine or buys medicine and distributes it.

    ObamaCare: Pay a fine unless you buy a healthcare plan from BlueCross or another provider, which are entirely private companies that are in no way owned by the government, that allow you to receive care from private practice and privately owned doctor's and hospitals, that are in no way owned by the government.

    That's how far off you are in fairytale land dude. If this were a test you'd have to be graded incomplete because they just haven't figured out a grade for someone that spent the entire three hours trying to bubble his name into the scantron sheet and was still only half way there.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Are you sure that isn't what Obama is trying to do here? What is it that obama is implementing that isn't part of the European model? Higher taxes, more govt. control and responsibility, socialized medicine, expansion of social safety net?
    Here is something Obama is trying to implement (and it is part of the euromodel); the end of obesity! The size of some of my "fellow Americans" is not as embarrassing as it is a strain on the long term sustainability of our health care system.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Super Erod, now with the ability to leap logic in a single bound, fast enough to not let any information actually catch up with him, flying at the speed of RNC talking points...

    You get trounced on a topic and just switch over to another talking point. How sad and predictable... all at once.
    So now you are an expert on who is getting trounced on the topic? Wow, such an expert on every subject. Where did you develop such skills?

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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Civilized Society? Civilized society supports socialized Medicine? Name for me a successful socialist country in the world? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty in the face of failures all over the world. I call that arrogance or stupidity.
    Ok sure:

    People's Republic of China

    Denmark

    Finland

    Norway

    Sweden.
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    Re: Obama Seeks to End Tax Breaks to Pay for Jobs Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Here is something Obama is trying to implement (and it is part of the euromodel); the end of obesity! The size of some of my "fellow Americans" is not as embarrassing as it is a strain on the long term sustainability of our health care system.
    Great, next we will get scales put in every house and the federal weight monitors that go around weighing people. Is that what you were taught the role of the Federal govt. was? Is that how you became semi retired at age 27 promoting massive growth and overreach by the Federal Govt? Where does it stop in your world?

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