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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yes, and he was Republican while YOUR party of KKKer's were hanging blacks.
    The Republican party was also popular in the north, and the Democratic party was popular in the south. up until the Civil Rights act anyway...

    Southerners and northerners didn't switch positions geographically.
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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    better a flag than burning people like in Pakistan

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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Maybe I'm just grumpy, but I guess I am no better, either, cuz I agree with councilman.
    When Japan had that earthquake...we were there, helping. Didn't matter that they killed so many at Pearl Harbor. The USA doesn't hold grudges.
    Some do. And obviously most radical muslims are in that category. And anyone that IS muslim has the stink of radicals hanging on their burqa's just like christians have the stink of Falwell's/Baker's/InsertPreacherNameHere on their prayer books.
    You do realize that they don't hate us for the one time (over the course of 10 years ha-ha) that we bombed a few people in Iraq right? They hate us for the same reasons people in Latin America, Africa and Asia would hate a state that gives military, financial and political support to dictatorships in their region. The US doesn't hold grudges cause we have nobody to hold a grudge against. Japan? Well, I don't hold a grudge against them but most old timers in my area who fought in the war call them derogative names. Britain was 200+ years ago. The Mexicans got their assess kicked and so did Spain. Who would we have to hold a grudge against? Wait, do you even realize that Muslims aren't holding a grudge? A grudge would mean they're mad over something that happened a while back. We're still in their countries supporting dictatorships at our discretion.
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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    But where did the US gov't make the link between Saddam and the 9/11 terrorists?
    That is a conflation that liberals promoted to bash Bush with at the time. Iraq didn't have anything to do with the events of 9/11, however he was involved in supporting terrorist in that region, and that coupled with his constant refusal to comply with UN edicts, finally led to his bluff being called, and the people are better off for it.

    How did we go from Al-Qaeda attacking US to US invades Iraq?
    An honest reading of history would probably serve you well friend.

    Perhaps war could have been much cheaper, smaller, and quicker if we attacked Afghanistan full force from the get go, no Iraq.
    And maybe if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass when it hoped. Hindsight armchair quaterbacking is one of the things that increased the divide we see today in politics. Are you seriously trying to come in here with a "conservative" lean, and spout dem talking points from 2003?

    Why blow the war up into magnificent proportions at the expense of US lives and tax dollars?
    What a dichotomy you offer here, on the one hand you say that a larger response to Afghanistan would have been better, and on the other you question why we have to have large endeavors....Which is it?

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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not trying to blame Bush for murders committed in Iraq 150 years from now, which would be the analogy flying off your rapier-like mind.

    I'm blaming Bush for the perfectly foreseeable results of his invasion.
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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Maybe I'm just grumpy, but I guess I am no better, either, cuz I agree with councilman.
    When Japan had that earthquake...we were there, helping. Didn't matter that they killed so many at Pearl Harbor.
    Today's generation of Japanese citizens had little or nothing to do with Pearl Harbor. Maybe it would've helped your case more to talk about Japanese Reconstruction in the aftermath of WWII.

    The USA doesn't hold grudges.
    Some do. And obviously most radical muslims are in that category.
    I wouldn't really call it holding grudges as much as they embrace a nihilistic worldview that hates everything that they are not. Also a "grudge" implies that some misdeed was done in the past...I think a lot of radical Muslims perceive that they are still being screwed over by the West at present (whether or not that perception is true is a different discussion).

    And anyone that IS muslim has the stink of radicals hanging on their burqa's just like christians have the stink of Falwell's/Baker's/InsertPreacherNameHere on their prayer books.
    Unfair characterization of both Christians and Muslims, not sure if you really mean this or you're just exaggerating.

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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Guess where the OP stopped? ...

    "A small group of Muslims staged a counter-demonstration nearby, holding up placards reading 'Muslims Against Extremism' and 'If You Want Sharia, Move To Saudi'.
    Abdul Sallam, 41, who was waving a sign that read 'Keep The Silence', travelled down to London from his home in Glasgow to show the strength of his feelings.
    He said: 'I'm a Muslim. What they're doing is bringing shame on all Muslims.This is not part of the teachings of Islam.
    'Islam is all about peace, but what they want to do is hate other people... "

    Bigots on either side don't want his message heard.
    The counter protest would be relvant if they could personally stop the violence these others are screaming about.

    One group is very willing to kill people and are even saying they will, and the other group is saying "Please don't"

    You have to take a threat seriously when it is coming from somebody that is capable of the violence and perfectly willing to commit it.

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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The counter protest would be relvant if they could personally stop the violence these others are screaming about.

    One group is very willing to kill people and are even saying they will, and the other group is saying "Please don't"

    You have to take a threat seriously when it is coming from somebody that is capable of the violence and perfectly willing to commit it.
    Sorry, I just don't see the difference between what that small group did, and what this small group did:

    Florida preacher burns Koran in bizarre 'trial and execution' in front of a crowd of ... 30 people

    Read more: Florida preacher Terry Jones burns Koran in bizarre 'trial and execution' in front of a crowd of ... 30 people | Mail Online
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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sorry, I just don't see the difference between what that small group did, and what this small group did:

    Florida preacher burns Koran in bizarre 'trial and execution' in front of a crowd of ... 30 people

    Read more: Florida preacher Terry Jones burns Koran in bizarre 'trial and execution' in front of a crowd of ... 30 people | Mail Online
    Has Terry Jones or any of his followers or any followers of his beliefs killed any Muslims?

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    Re: 100 protesters burn American flag outside U.S. embassy in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Has Terry Jones or any of his followers or any followers of his beliefs killed any Muslims?
    Have any of that small group that burned the flag killed any Americans?

    Again, I see no difference.
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