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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Impossible to say at this point.
    But, not when Giffords was capped...oh no, it was quite obvious...then.
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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

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    That was a little different, given that Giffords is/was a politician. Sorta suggests the possibility of a poltiical motive.
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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, not when Giffords was capped...oh no, it was quite obvious...then.
    Of course that was different. Giffords is a politician who was shot at a political event. This is a case where some national guard troops were shot in a restaurant. No way of knowing if they were targeted or just in the wrong place at the wrong time. We could draw better conclusions the shooting had occurred at a guard event or facility.

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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Yes because the average American needs one of those to hunt and provide for his family. Sigh.

    Seriously, I honestly don't get the outrage on the right for the disdain of weapons designed to kill so many people.
    If the rifle was a full auto weapon, (which I think has not yet been established but some early reports suggest it was), those are already heavily regulated and he probably did not possess it legally.

    Personally I think making this incident about gun control is just as bad as making it partisan. **** like this happens because of murderous nutjobs, and there's probably no way to stop an occasional event like this... but thankfully they're pretty rare among a 300 million-plus population. What are your odds of being present (let alone shot) when something like this happens, ever in your life? Probably millions to one against. What are your odds of dying in a car crash? Around 100 to 1.

    I recall a case in Atlanta where a businessman killed his wife and three co-workers with a hammer. A hammer, and he killed nearly as many as this guy with an AK.

    Murderous nutcases slip through the cracks sometimes. Blaming that on the Left, the Right, or guns, or Obama, or Bush, or hammers, is not a solution.

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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Of course that was different. Giffords is a politician who was shot at a political event. This is a case where some national guard troops were shot in a restaurant. No way of knowing if they were targeted or just in the wrong place at the wrong time. We could draw better conclusions the shooting had occurred at a guard event or facility.
    Two Army officers were assassinated in this shooting. I'm not seeing a difference, except for the lack of political mileage here vs. the Giffords shooting.
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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Two Army officers were assassinated in this shooting. I'm not seeing a difference, except for the lack of political mileage here vs. the Giffords shooting.
    Really? You can see the difference? In the first case the shooter specifically went to a political rally to target a politician. In the second case the shooter went to a public restaurant and shot two guardsmen. We don't know if they were targeted because they were guardsmen or whether they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Really? You can see the difference? In the first case the shooter specifically went to a political rally to target a politician. In the second case the shooter went to a public restaurant and shot two guardsmen. We don't know if they were targeted because they were guardsmen or whether they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    A, "politician"; the bodies weren't even cold, before the Libbos were claiming that Laughner was influenced by talk radio, or Ann Coulter, or something.

    The Libbos weren't nearly as objective then, as they are now. Why is that?
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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A, "politician"; the bodies weren't even cold, before the Libbos were claiming that Laughner was influenced by talk radio, or Ann Coulter, or something.

    The Libbos weren't nearly as objective then, as they are now. Why is that?
    Because it was clear that the target of the attack was a Democratic politician, whereas in this case there is no indication of a motive. It's not that complicated.

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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Because it was clear that the target of the attack was a Democratic politician, whereas in this case there is no indication of a motive.
    More like, it would be almost impossible to blame the execution of two Army officers on a Right Wing nut job.

    It's not that complicated.
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    Re: Nevada IHOP shooter was 'gentle, kind man'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    More like, it would be almost impossible to blame the execution of two Army officers on a Right Wing nut job.
    Not at all. I could certainly do that, if it was indicated. I mean the guy did have a "support our troops" sticker on his car. But again, there is no evidence that he targeted the guardsmen. There's no indication that he even knew they were in the iHop. The first person he shot was a bicyclist in the parking lot.

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