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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    A smart businessman would recognize balance and the need to employ...consumers.
    The emphasis is massive, it cheaper to higher skilled workers and use equipment for the rest. In China, its cheaper to higher people.
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    A smart businessman would recognize balance and the need to employ...consumers.
    Sure, a smart businessman recognizes that everyone would benefit if every business took on a few more workers ... EXCEPT not him. He'll ace the competition by running lean. That's exactly the situation we're in now. Businesses have the profits and the cash to hire, but they won't until demand picks up. But demand won't pick up until hiring picks up. Chicken < -- > Egg < -- > Chicken....

    That's why stimulus is needed to break the impasse.

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    A smart businessman would recognize balance and the need to employ...consumers.
    That would be the wrong suggestion for an individual business. If he does so, and his competitors do not, and have lower costs, he will go out of business soon, employing no one
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Capitalism is not mean, it is cruel however. It cares not for who or what you are, just what you can economically produce
    Its a bitch-eat-bitch world, you either swim or you sink.

    You keep hearing...only "Made In America By The American Working Man" for me
    schtick

    Those 5.11 Tactical pants one loves so much made? They may do US production to meet procurement regs but made in Vietnam.

    Oakley boots? Again, some made in the US to meet procurement regulations, most made in China. The list goes on and on...

    Heres a question... Why the **** has every administration since Nixon strived to bring China into the fold? Why has every American business that manufacturers goods poured into the China market?

    The fact is many businesses do not work without China. Between being in business and not, between employing a few Chinese and a few Americans or employing nobody, between creating something and creating nothing, one chooses the former in all cases.

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, a smart businessman recognizes that everyone would benefit if every business took on a few more workers ... EXCEPT not him. He'll ace the competition by running lean. That's exactly the situation we're in now. Businesses have the profits and the cash to hire, but they won't until demand picks up. But demand won't pick up until hiring picks up. Chicken < -- > Egg < -- > Chicken....

    That's why stimulus is needed to break the impasse.
    Horse****. 'Stimulus' takes 800 billion dollars, lights it on fire, and is amazed when it has nothing to show for it. 'Stimulus' might actually work if the fed purchased 800 billion dollars worth of goods from American manufacturers that set up industry in America and hired Americans. Im very much NOT suprised that people like you look at the federal government that cant pass so much as an operating budget and that has run up 15.5 trillion (thanks new 'debt ceiling') as the answer to problems.

    Obamas green jobs push...again...foolish. Dump money in on the business side...but when there are no customers and no demand for product, your company goes TU. Shocking. Who DIDNT see that coming?

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    That would be the wrong suggestion for an individual business. If he does so, and his competitors do not, and have lower costs, he will go out of business soon, employing no one
    I agree...for an individual business. Ive long said...the feds role here should be to bring industry en masse and labor together and negotiate a positive work/industry environment. The sales pitch shouldnt be that hard.

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    You really can not blame, the industry for any of this; capital and business flows to the point that makes the most sense and it makes sense to have parts made in China right now.

    Check this out....the American worker feels they are entitled to high wages and lavish benefits, then goes shopping and demands the lowest price goods possible?? lol

    You can't have it both ways. Something has to give

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    There isn't any reason to hire massive amounts of worker to manufacture in the US because its cheaper, long term, to use equipment.
    certainly technology will play an increasing role in manufacturing and production. however, it will still be necessary for the current working class to have a way to earn a living to purchase those products.

    the current scenario still requires people to produce goods. i would prefer to see those people working under humane conditions, and living in a clean environment. requiring OSHA and US emissions compliance for free access to our markets seems an equitable solution with potential for leveling the playing field somewhat.

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The only way to really do that is tariff. Companies no longer have loyalty to consumers and employees the way they once did. They'll pick up and leave at a moments notice. Fire as many people as necessary to make their "profit" look good that quarter. The more and more we give them, the more and more they take. It would require regulation and tariff of appropriate level to force manufacturing back into the US.
    Companies are hammered with more government regulation than they once were, too.
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    certainly technology will play an increasing role in manufacturing and production. however, it will still be necessary for the current working class to have a way to earn a living to purchase those products.
    The avg worker simply has to get smarter or move onto more service type jobs like fixing houses etc.
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