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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Our government is too in bed with big businesses for this to happen, but I agree with you.
    The Chinese govt isn't in bed with Chinese business, right?
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The problem with that statement is that we're manufacturing more now than we ever have. But because of computers and automation, manufacturing supports only a fraction of the employment that it once did. So what should be do? Tell manufacturers that they can't use computers and automated assembly lines? It's not going to work, any more than tariffs will work. What we need to do is develop and export intellectual capital.

    Theres 3.5 million less manufacturing jobs today than there were in 2000...the bulk of the jobs went to china

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Inflation in China has been over 5% for many years. The US is at 1.4%.
    thats because they are growin n leaps and bounds thanks to your corporations and were dieing here

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

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    The Chinese govt isn't in bed with Chinese business, right?

    You need to get into reality man...china couldnt feed its people a few years go...they ate dog and cat....until OUR corporatiosn went there and exploited dirt cheap labor controlled for them by a COMMUNIST regime...they didnt have to worry about labor disputes the chinese govt would see to that...they didnt hve to worry about unions demanding more pay the chinese govt would just jail all of them....Our corporations get to conveniently turn a blind eye to the sweatshops they created that work 12 yr olds....ALL OUT OF GREED...period

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    I think we need to get over the idea of "manufacturing" being a viable industry. Even without cheaper labor overseas, automation will quickly phase out the need for human employees in the manufacturing center. What we need to do is adjust and adapt with the times. We're going to have to accept that unskilled or uneducated labor positions will shift into other industries or disappear entirely and invest in providing education resources to fill the gaps.

    Manufacturing jobs are a short-term solution and any significant increase in U.S. manufacturing will likely result in higher prices and cost of living increases, so I'm not sure how great a solution it would truly be.
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You need to get into reality man...china couldnt feed its people a few years go...they ate dog and cat....until OUR corporatiosn went there and exploited dirt cheap labor controlled for them by a COMMUNIST regime...they didnt have to worry about labor disputes the chinese govt would see to that...they didnt hve to worry about unions demanding more pay the chinese govt would just jail all of them....Our corporations get to conveniently turn a blind eye to the sweatshops they created that work 12 yr olds....ALL OUT OF GREED...period
    Well gosh, maybe we should do away with all that, and we'll be successful too. You agree don't you?
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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm confused, what does all this mean on Chinese books? Obviously not the bottomline, right?
    The sheer cost of funding retirement plans, most of all medical benefits, does weigh heavy on America. Simple ecomonics will dictate that the burden of these costs render companies uncompetative in the global economy. It's only going to get worse as the bulk of the baby boomers retire over the next couple of years.

    As crude as this may sound....but welcome to global free market capitalism. We all voted for it. We put free market capitalism on the agenda and US entrepreneurs are taking advantage of it.

    Can you blame them?

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well gosh, maybe we should do away with all that, and we'll be successful too. You agree don't you?

    I dont kn ow what you mean

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think we need to get over the idea of "manufacturing" being a viable industry. Even without cheaper labor overseas, automation will quickly phase out the need for human employees in the manufacturing center. What we need to do is adjust and adapt with the times. We're going to have to accept that unskilled or uneducated labor positions will shift into other industries or disappear entirely and invest in providing education resources to fill the gaps.

    Manufacturing jobs are a short-term solution and any significant increase in U.S. manufacturing will likely result in higher prices and cost of living increases, so I'm not sure how great a solution it would truly be.

    Tess there will ALWAYS be manufacturing...thats the only way to produce hard goods...automation is a thing of the past...newer technology like robots have taken some jobs.....but there would be alot more jobs in this co untry if the greedy didnt move them to china and other countries..

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    Re: Working-age poor population highest since '60s

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Tess there will ALWAYS be manufacturing...thats the only way to produce hard goods...automation is a thing of the past...newer technology like robots have taken some jobs.....but there would be alot more jobs in this co untry if the greedy didnt move them to china and other countries..
    Yeah, we'll always be making stuff, but humans won't be doing the making. Instead of having 1,500 men on the factory floor you'll have 100 robots or machines and maybe 50 mechanics to tend to the machines. We'll NEVER have a significant human manufacturing presence long term without extreme price increases, COL increases, and probable inflation. Relying on "new" manufacturing jobs to solve unemployment because they are "unskilled" jobs and easy to fill....it's a pipe dream. It's the wrong path to take.

    You need innovation, new ideas, new ways forward. "Unskilled" will be a thing of the past in the near-future workforce. We're going to have to focus on educating workers in high-demand fields instead of allowing the lowest common denominator to stay low, taking on unskilled positions that require little education or training. Those jobs simply aren't going to exist much longer.
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