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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yeah and the chemical warfare was used AGAINST Iran by Iraq... supported by...



    DING DING DING DING DING
    Wait I'm confused here ... isn't chemical warfare considered a WMD ?? Surely you can't be saying that a WMD that he didn't have was used ??

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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    First everyone seems to think that Iraq is now a stable country, hardly the case, there are still hundreds of casualties every month there.
    Here are just a couple of headlines I've come across


    09/05/11 Reuters: Iranian artillery shelling kills wman in Arbril

    09/05/11 AP: Iran kills 30 Kurds near Iraqi border
    09/05/11 Reuters: Roadside bomb wounds three in people central Baghdad
    09/05/11 Reuters: Gunmen attack Electricity Ministry official in eastern Baghdad
    09/05/11 Reuters: Gunmen kill off-duty soldier in northern Mosul
    09/05/11 Reuters: Gunmen kill border guard in western Mosul


    As long as Iraq is unstable as it is, it's ripe for a country like Iran (mentioned twice in those headlines) to do whatever they can to keep this fighting alive, or intensive it even more as UN forces are withdrawn. You can agree or disagree with the war there, makes no difference. But to leave Iraq now while it's so close to becoming a success, is a disgrace to every coalition person that died on that battlefield, to every Iraqi that died in their support of the freedom of their country. In my opinion, leaving enough troops in Iraq, to give them the best opportunity of success is the only option that should be considered.


    As to Iran invading Iraq anytime in the near future, I don't see that happening, Iran is not seen as a favorable country by many nations including the US. They have spit in the face of the UN and the US and laughed about it to many times already, invading Iraq at this time would mean retaliation on a scale they are not yet prepared for, and they know it. They will continue to do just what they have been doing, that is to train and supply arms to insurgents and continue with their shelling of border towns. But I also believe that if the troop withdrawal is too fast they will intensive their involvement


    To Catawba, yes the majority of Democrats voted against the war in the house, but in the senate the majority of Democrats voted for the war. So making this a GOP issue is just a lie. But you are well known for cherry picking your facts.



    People should know politics well enough by now that when the results of a vote are well known ahead of time some votes are made for purely political reasons. This is not exclusive of either party. But seeing as how you are a liberal .. let me give you this one as an example.


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    I know you know who's words those are, so tell me was that a purely political vote and speech or one made out of pure ignorance? Has to be one or the other, because we certainly heard no such words from him on doing the same thing 5 years later have we?

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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post


    To Catawba, yes the majority of Democrats voted against the war in the house, but in the senate the majority of Democrats voted for the war. So making this a GOP issue is just a lie. But you are well known for cherry picking your facts.
    What I stated is fact. The majority of all Democrats voted against the war on Iraq vs an almost unanimous majority of Republicans that voted for it.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wait a minute. Conservatives think this is evidence that Obama is "in panic mode?"

    I don't get it. Explain this to me. Seriously this makes no sense.
    I don't think he's in panic mode, I think he's in stupid mode. His own freaking generals want a lot more troops than that, but this is politics.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yeah and the chemical warfare was used AGAINST Iran by Iraq... supported by...



    DING DING DING DING DING
    Are you really trotting out that old ****?
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    I do believe leaving only 3000 soldiers in Iraq is irresponsible and endangers all 3000, especially when one considers the unrest and fractal alliances between different Islamic sects and Christian groups. I would also immediately cease all subsidies and foreign aid monies as soon as the last U.S. soldier is in the air on his/her way home !!
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I don't think he's in panic mode, I think he's in stupid mode. His own freaking generals want a lot more troops than that, but this is politics.
    And as has been shown in this thread, there are actually several proposals for troop levels in Iraq, and they are waiting for Baghdad to make their proposal before deciding which proposal to go with. The unnamed sources in the OP don't appear to be terribly reliable.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And as has been shown in this thread, there are actually several proposals for troop levels in Iraq, and they are waiting for Baghdad to make their proposal before deciding which proposal to go with. The unnamed sources in the OP don't appear to be terribly reliable.
    Well I hope the hell so, cause 3,000 is idiotic even to the casual observer.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well I hope the hell so, cause 3,000 is idiotic even to the casual observer.
    The casual observer is an idiot to even have an opinion. If you do not have the facts, such as what Iraq wants over there, what the mission for the next year is to be, among other things, the casual observer has not nearly enough facts to have an educated opinion and can only look stupid trying to offer one.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What I stated is fact. The majority of all Democrats voted against the war on Iraq vs an almost unanimous majority of Republicans that voted for it.


    Okay and Obama himself voted against raising the deficit, so he "is" against it right ?? Seeing how nearly every Democrat voted against the only bill, during that deficit debate, that had a balanced budget Amendment..... there for it a "fact" to say that the majority of Democrats are against having any thing close to a balanced budget. Thank you for clearing all that up for me

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