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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It's funny because you helped fuel that war Without you it wouldn't have gone on so long.



    What evidence do you have that they will? Especially if America would intervene in such a case, and they would.
    Iran is arming anti-government insurgents, in Iraq.

    The Iranian ground forces would be blown to kingdom come by the American air Force.
    Well, that talking point sounds good, but you don't win fights with air-power alone.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iran is arming anti-government insurgents, in Iraq.
    So you have evidence of Iranian armed forces ready to storm the border do you?

    Well, that talking point sounds good, but you don't win fights with air-power alone.
    Um.... talking point? Of course you don't win on air power alone. But it all depends, if they tried to storm the border and you caused enough damage to them they may withdraw, or it would at least buy enough time to move troops into Iraq since there are many bases in the region...

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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iran is arming anti-government insurgents, in Iraq.



    Well, that talking point sounds good, but you don't win fights with air-power alone.
    You do know that Iran and the current government in Iraq are rather closely tied diplomatically dont you?
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So you have evidence of Iranian armed forces ready to storm the border do you?
    I have evidence that Iran has interveined in events in Iraq. Do you evidence that Iran intends to help cultivate a free and democratic society in Iraq? I would love to see it, if you do. So...do you?



    Um.... talking point? Of course you don't win on air power alone. But it all depends, if they tried to storm the border and you caused enough damage to them they may withdraw, or it would at least buy enough time to move troops into Iraq since there are many bases in the region...
    "if", is a big ass word. We could cause them to withdraw, if we were able to achieve air supremacy and, if we were able to put steel on target. Lot's, "if's", in that equation.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You do know that Iran and the current government in Iraq are rather closely tied diplomatically dont you?
    The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were closely tied, too. How did that turn out?
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were closely tied, too. How did that turn out?
    *GROAN

    When you`re in the wrong (which is almost always) why do you always have to play the WW2 crap... seriously it has no bearing on this ****ing subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have evidence that Iran has interveined in events in Iraq. Do you evidence that Iran intends to help cultivate a free and democratic society in Iraq? I would love to see it, if you do. So...do you?
    So you don't have evidence of Iranian armed forces troop movements along the border with Iraq.

    Cool. I believe THATS what we were talking about.



    "if", is a big ass word.
    Actually its a two letter word.

    Which makes it a small word.

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    We could cause them to withdraw, if we were able to achieve air supremacy and, if we were able to put steel on target. Lot's, "if's", in that equation.
    The Iranian army moving over a vast swath of desert and open territory without air superiority is a complete loss.

    See Israels air strikes against retreating Egyptian forces in the Sinai for more details.

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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What Obama better pray for, is that Iran doesn't invade Iraq and slaughter those troops, because he was so politically ambitious that his stupid ass thought that Iraq could be held down with a single brigade.

    Putting politics before troop protection. Whatta ****ing asshole.
    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well.....more bad news.

    I am betting Iran invades and takes over Iraq once Obama pulls out most of the US forces there. Iran is twice the threat that Iraq was. It is only a matter of time before it gets nasty, and they'll have (or already have) the bomb!
    Are you kidding me? Iran will not invade Iraq with ANY US troops there. While putting troops on the ground is one thing, a very expensive thing... we can and have bombed the crap out of them (Iraq) for the ten years between the wars. Iran know this. We don't need to put troops on the ground to destroy a country... we have cruise missiles and stealth fighter/bombers.

    As for the hysterical claims that Iran has or will very soon have a bomb... that's right up there with Saddam could have a bomb within the year. Iran's entire stockpile of yellow cake is under IAEA monitoring. They can't remove an ounce of it without prior approval. The amount removed to date is nowhere near enough to make a bomb. Hell, they've only reached 20% enrichment, far, far short of the 90%+ needed for a bomb. And the more you refine it, the harder it is and longer it takes.

    Iran is not a threat to 5 American troops, much less 3,000.

    Don't you guys ever get tired of living in fear fueled false bravado?

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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You believe that the 2006 NIE, that says that Iran stopped pursuing nukes in 2003 is on the money, too.
    Im skeptical on both sides of that issue....

    BTW, nevermind that Iran has been supporting insurgents in Iraq for years, now. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
    Does that point out that they are going to launch an invasion on Iraq????


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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    *GROAN

    When you`re in the wrong (which is almost always) why do you always have to play the WW2 crap... seriously it has no bearing on this ****ing subject.
    You just can't stand it, when you have nothing else to say and have to resort to insults and bitching about what others have to say.



    So you don't have evidence of Iranian armed forces troop movements along the border with Iraq.

    Cool. I believe THATS what we were talking about.
    Have you any evidence that it's an impossibility? I would love to see it.





    Actually its a two letter word.

    Which makes it a small word.

    Don't worry apdst, the No Child Left Behind Act will eventually catch up to you.
    More insults. You never disappoint.



    The Iranian army moving over a vast swath of desert and open territory without air superiority is a complete loss.

    See Israels air strikes against retreating Egyptian forces in the Sinai for more details.
    I said, "air supremacy", not air superiority. Air supremacy is what the IAF enjoyed, during the 6-Day War. However, if we only achieved air superiority in a fight with the Iranians, they may be able to create an air-defense umbrella that would allow more freedom of movement, in an environment that didn't allow for use of the terrain for protection.

    Iran achieved air superiority over iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and you see how long that lasted. As I said, you can't win a war from the air.
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    Re: Sources: Obama Administration to Drop Troop Levels in Iraq to 3,000

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Im skeptical on both sides of that issue....


    Does that point out that they are going to launch an invasion on Iraq????
    If you go by the age old axiom of, "never under-estimate your enemy", it does.

    Do you have a single shred of evidence that proves that an invasion by Iran is an impossibility? If so, post it. Otherwise, the, "you don't know ****", routine isn't going to cut the mustard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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