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Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

apdst said:
That's the same tired ol' video that's been used for months, now, to prove that Tea Partiers are racists. Oh, wait, the dude's black.
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No, to prove the tea party has overt racist elements all you need are

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Grant said:
Do you have any evidence, anything at all, that it was the Tea Party who put these out?
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They walked around with the Obama poster, some called members of congress N-word. thats enough.
 
xpiher said:
They walked around with the Obama poster, some called members of congress N-word. thats enough.
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Actually its not enough. You need some evidence before you make these sorts of charges, and you should offer up some evidence before you make even more vicious charges.

The Democrats are rapidly becoming the 'Son of a Bitch" party, willing to say or do anything against their fellow Americans in order to gain power.

But are you actually an American?
 
Grant said:
Actually its not enough. You need some evidence before you make these sorts of charges, and you should offer up some evidence before you make even more vicious charges.

The Democrats are rapidly becoming the 'Son of a Bitch" party, willing to say or do anything against their fellow Americans in order to gain power.

But are you actually an American?
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Do you not watch the news?

Too much tea party racism - Joan Walsh - Salon.com

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/20/tea-party-protests-nier-f_n_507116.html

And look at my political leaning, its not liberal. But TEA party people aren't libertarians for the most part. They want social-socialism
 
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xpiher said:
Do you not watch the news?

Too much tea party racism - Joan Walsh - Salon.com

Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,' 'Fa**ot' Shouted At Members Of Congress

You're kidding me? An opinion piece by an addled hack who admits she doesn't understand what the Tea Party was all about and then some photo shop posts?

Best to find out what the Tea Party stands for is to go directly to the Tea Party web site and avoid those who obviously have a Leftist axe to grind. What can you possibly learn from them about a third party? Why not go directly to the source? Stick with the misinformation garage and you'll only continue to be misinformed.

And look at my political leaning, its not liberal. But TEA party people aren't libertarians for the most part. They want social-socialism
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I see what you claim to be your politically position but your posts, and choice of web sites, obviously reflect your true political leanings. Social socialism?

Tea Party Patriots - Official Home of the American Tea Party Movement

Tea Party Zombies must die video game: shoot & kill Glenn Beck, other conservatives – Glenn Beck
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It was an opinion piece based on an actual event do you really want me to dig through and find the actual clip? What am I your mother?
 
I can't see why anybody would have a problem with photoshopping Obama into a monkey. Nobody on the faux 'Peace Left' had a problem with all the Bush photoshops as a monkey, did they? And, wasn't 'Flying Monkeys' a term for right wingers at faux 'Liberal' sites for years?

Ah well, two angry mobs of spoiled brats shooting spitballs at each other, vying for the chance to help crooks loot the country, all neo-liberals shilling for the monopolists financing both 'sides' and pretending there is a 'choice' and elections actually matter.

As an aside, does anyone else find it disturbing the Republican dog and pony show pretending to be a 'Debate' is sponsored by a front that holds the traitor, dope smuggler, and gun runner Reagan up as a 'hero'??? ... I don't think it was supposed to be ironic, but it certainly is appropriate, eh?
 
Objective Voice said:
I heard the portion of Hoffa's speech which includes the comments on voting accordingly to remove Tea Party members from Congress. Immediately, I knew there would be blow-back because of the "...let's take those SOBs out" verbage.

While I don't see Hoff's words in the same category as Sarah Palin's bulls-eyes on liberal congressional districts or what have you, I do understand that his words could easily be viewed as inflammatory. Still...

Content and context means everything, folks. The media has a responsibility to report the news accurately. Purposeful editing to inflame or stir up anxiety to me is irresponsible journalism and discredits the media source. This isn't the first time FoxNews has discreditted itself in this manner. Regardless, James Hoffa, Jr could have choosen his words alittle more carefully. That said, I don't think the President nor the DNC has a responsibility to publically reprimand their guess speaker. Not only did he not say or do anything wrong, he's not a member of Congress nor the Obama Administration. He's a citizen and free to exercise his 1st Amendment rights as long his words don't incite one to violence. To that, I think when people read or hear the exact contents of his words they'll put them in their proper context.
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It is also important who is saying the words. It is interesting you call him Hoff, like you know him personally.

If a representative of a historically violent organization says words like "take them out", that means violence. I don't care that he used the word vote a ways before that. The word vote does not go with SOB and take them out. Vote them out I would understand but take them out is a call for violence.

Look at the history of the teamsters and tell me if they are more prone to voting people out or taking them out violently.
 
Grant said:
Best to find out what the Tea Party stands for is to go directly to the Tea Party web site and avoid those who obviously have a Leftist axe to grind. What can you possibly learn from them about a third party? Why not go directly to the source?
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Oh, it's immediately ovbious what they are; just another marketing gimmick managed by the RNC. We have their votes to show what they are. 'Budget cutters' and 'conservatives' they aren't.

Stick with the misinformation garage and you'll only continue to be misinformed.
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The Tea Party farce's misinformation is just as misinforming as anybody else's misinformation, only it's tuned to a less literate mob of cretins, much like Jackson's and Sharpton's is for the Democrats. Nothing to see there.
 
xpiher said:
And look at my political leaning, its not liberal. But TEA party people aren't libertarians for the most part. They want social-socialism
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They do want to keep the "guvmint" out of their Medicare

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Mason66 said:
I watched the speech and Obama did what he always does.

He gave his shout outs to his peeps, and his "in da house" to the senators and everybody.

He is a low class piece of ****. Is that racist to say? I really don't care.

He is the President Of The United States not an MC at a rap concert. Pleasantries is one thing but doing what he does at all his speeches is just low class.

He also took a speech that was for Labor day and again started to attack the Republicans, like it was a campaign speech.

I don't think he knows the difference anymore.

He is supposed to be the President for everybody but he seems to be a President for the Democrats and union members, but not other workers.

I know this thread was about Hoffa, but I think this ties into it.
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Yes, it is racist. But then you are a right wing zealot. Why would we expect anything else?
 
Grant said:
Actually its not enough. You need some evidence before you make these sorts of charges, and you should offer up some evidence before you make even more vicious charges.

The Democrats are rapidly becoming the 'Son of a Bitch" party, willing to say or do anything against their fellow Americans in order to gain power.

But are you actually an American?
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I'm guessing he's as much an American as you are an 'Independent'.
 
Hatuey said:
... I'm sure this has already been brought up... but isn't Jimmy Hoffa buried somewhere under Yankee Stadium?
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Herb Stern (former mob prosecutor, Federal judge etc) claimed it was some public school in NJ IIRC

I think the got crushed in a auto salvage lot myself and sleeps with da fishes

the guy who cleaned him probably lasted about 4 hours longer
 
Mason66 said:
He also took a speech that was for Labor day and again started to attack the Republicans, like it was a campaign speech.

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Well, we can't have people that are running for re-election making campaign speeches, now can we?
 
Modus said:
by working class citizens, i actually mean the 99% of the people who ARE working class citizens, and who's pay checks aren't derived from corporate greed. vote for whoever you choose to, be my guest. when you actually get an understanding of how this country will be ran, you will regret your choice of who you voted for in 2012.
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The phrase "working class" is marxist rhetoric.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_class
 
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EarlzP said:
More distortions on your part and on the part of republican tea baggers you support, Hoffa did not encourage violence he encouraged people to go to the polls and vote. Do you have a problem with American citizens voting? Are you afraid that Hoffa might be able to mobilize the American middle class and poor to become activitely involved in voicing thier opinion and voting
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Of course he didn't. Not that unions are against violence but it was political rhetoric. Just like Palin's "targeting" certain districts for turnover.
 
xpiher said:
Do you not watch the news?

Too much tea party racism - Joan Walsh - Salon.com

Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,' 'Fa**ot' Shouted At Members Of Congress

And look at my political leaning, its not liberal. But TEA party people aren't libertarians for the most part. They want social-socialism
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A few people being racist at a Tea Party rally means then that the whole of the Tea Party is racist, and that those individuals MUST have been Tea Party members. Sorta reminds me of how if a few muslims are terrorists they ALL must be terrorists, right?
 
Wiggen said:
Funniest poster ever. Keep Gummint outa Medicare! These people manage to combine overwhelming ignorance with mind-boggling stupidity. A wonderful combination
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Not to mention they work and pay taxes without the need of a union, none of which you could comprehend.
 
Ockham said:
A few people being racist at a Tea Party rally means then that the whole of the Tea Party is racist, and that those individuals MUST have been Tea Party members. Sorta reminds me of how if a few muslims are terrorists they ALL must be terrorists, right?
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well is that not the rhetoric both bill o'reilly and fox news seemed to use?
 
Ockham said:
A few people being racist at a Tea Party rally means then that the whole of the Tea Party is racist, and that those individuals MUST have been Tea Party members. Sorta reminds me of how if a few muslims are terrorists they ALL must be terrorists, right?
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Slam dunk.

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xpiher said:
It was an opinion piece based on an actual event do you really want me to dig through and find the actual clip? What am I your mother?
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Why are you looking on the Huffington Post to find information on the Tea Party when you can go directly to their web site to find out what they're all about? Do you genuinely believe the Huffington Post to be a reliable source of information?

You may have been called a mother a few times but it's unlikely, given your profile, that you are, biologically, anyone's mother.
 
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