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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    I've got a question for those of you apologizing for Hoffa. What would be your reaction had a leader of any right wing demographic come out and said "take those sons of bitches out" in regards to left wing leadership in the House, Senate, and White House? Im willing to bet you would be hopping mad.

    Hoffa's comments were to call House and Senate leaders sons of bitches....explain to me how that isn't wrong? How it does anything to add to political discourse? Further you are ignoring he is directly linking those elected in the 2010 midterms and those the tea party supported directly or indirectly with his comments and you just let that skate.

    To me, Hoffa was wrong. That isnt politcal rhetoric. Its frenzied us versus them hate speech whether hes talking about voting or direct action. Its wrong.
    I'm not apologizing for what Hoffa said, its quite clear what he said. And earlier in the day Ed Henry of Fox News made it clear Hoffa was talking about voting next November. But that did stop Fox from editing the video and distorting what he said later in the day.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Imagine...if there was a leader or president that would actually call on people to tone down such rhetoric...for the good of the country...
    Imagine if you got to watch what Hoffa really said and not a doctored video.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What's truly disturbing is the lengths you seem willing to go to do shield yourself from reality -- just to protect your one-sided political views.
    Obama's stimulus plan was nothing more than a thinly-veiled Dem welfare scheme to benefit the public employees' unions that got him elected. It also served to delay the inevitable downsizing of state and municipal budgets...with the unfortunate consequence that now the necessary cuts will be even more painful that they would have been a year ago. Your buddy in the WH bet the farm on a rapid economic recovery to bail out the public sector. A couple years into his term we still face record high unemployment with most analysts in agreement that it will still be above 9-10% when the next election cycle comes around.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What's truly disturbing is the lengths you seem willing to go to do shield yourself from reality -- just to protect your one-sided political views.
    You wanna stick with the lie about those two? You think the Giffords shooter was a right wing extremists and not a pot smoking liberal whackjob? Do you HONESTLY believe that or just insist on it by way of rabid defense of ideology?

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Obama's stimulus plan was nothing more than a thinly-veiled Dem welfare scheme to benefit the public employees' unions that got him elected. It also served to delay the inevitable downsizing of state and municipal budgets...with the unfortunate consequence that now the necessary cuts will be even more painful that they would have been a year ago. Your buddy in the WH bet the farm on a rapid economic recovery to bail out the public sector. A couple years into his term we still face record high unemployment with most analysts in agreement that it will still be above 9-10% when the next election cycle comes around.
    ^^ Empty partisan rhetoric ^^

    Much of the stimulus was a direct tax cut for working families. Much of it was also assistance to the states, many of which don't even allow collective bargaining by state workers.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You wanna stick with the lie about those two? You think the Giffords shooter was a right wing extremists and not a pot smoking liberal whackjob? Do you HONESTLY believe that or just insist on it by way of rabid defense of ideology?
    There is no comparison to J Hoffa calling for a voter turnout and S Palin putting cross hairs on Rep Giffords

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You wanna stick with the lie about those two? You think the Giffords shooter was a right wing extremists and not a pot smoking liberal whackjob? Do you HONESTLY believe that or just insist on it by way of rabid defense of ideology?
    He was clearly a right-wing nut job who frequently espoused anti-government views and conspiracy theories about government. A lot of his writings were taken from right-wing nutjob David Wynn Miller.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You wanna stick with the lie about those two? You think the Giffords shooter was a right wing extremists and not a pot smoking liberal whackjob? Do you HONESTLY believe that or just insist on it by way of rabid defense of ideology?
    Would you mind saying what Hoffa meant when he said:


    HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

    During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:


    HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize,let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!
    In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"
    Dinstinction w/o a difference, as the call is STILL to "take them out".
    Not vote them out, not remove them from office, but to "take them out".
    No way to argue that this is not the sort of inflammatory rhetoric the left whined and cried about not all that long ago.

    I will say that your efficacy in combining a mindless defense of Hoffa with a mindless attack on Fox is commendable - very nice of you to waste just one post instead of two.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    oh, wait, no. not right. Because being a liberal means never being held responsible for your rhetoric.
    1. The full quote shows he was talking about voting the people out.

    2. Yes, he used aggressive language but all sides do it and personally I don't care. I only really take notice when a side starts brandishing guns at their rally's or in order to protest someone which I've only seen from one side if I'm to be honest. If some goobers want to go out and listen to Hoffa no skin off my back.

    3. All of these threads turning this stuff into this side vs. that side is stupid. Thanks for contributing to that. Wouldn't expect any less of you...
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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