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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I recall many on both sides complaining, especially the Left of course, and the slogan was withdrawn, just as it should have been.

    It is pointless and dishonest to try and defend the indefensible and the "they did it too" excuse just doesn't wash.

    Obama had the opportunity to lead the way, particular after his speech wherein he chided Americans after the Tucson shooting:



    Barrack Obama can only talk the talk. To allow a supporter to public call those with a different point of view "Sons of bitches" and not make a statement condemning it, demonstrates how weak he is, and why he should not be re-elected in 2012. If I was to use that term on you, you would be rightly offended as well. America deserves better than this corrupt buffoon..
    From that perspective (referring to context of the President's Tuscon speech quoted in your post #246), I agree. Perhaps it would be prudent for the President, when asked about the matter, to simply say that he'll contact the Union leader and ask him to tone down his rhetoric the next time he speaks at a public rally hosted by President. Fair enough?
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's pretty clear what Hoffa meant by his comment:

    HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize,let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!
    Yes, everything in context. We'll remind you of this the next time you cry "racist!" at a conservative who said nothing of the kind. So probably...tomorrow.


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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    No, to prove the tea party has overt racist elements all you need are

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    Do you have any evidence, anything at all, that it was the Tea Party who put these out?
    Do you agree or disagree that the verbage and images dipicted carry racist undertones? Doesn't matter who posted them to a website. All you have to do is post one simple word: Agree or Disagree.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    From that perspective (referring to context of the President's Tuscon speech quoted in your post #246), I agree. Perhaps it would be prudent for the President, when asked about the matter, to simply say that he'll contact the Union leader and ask him to tone down his rhetoric the next time he speaks at a public rally hosted by President. Fair enough?
    Barack Obama will ask the Union leader to tone down his rhetoric? That will never happen! Never!

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Do you agree or disagree that the verbage and images dipicted carry racist undertones? Doesn't matter who posted them to a website. All you have to do is post one simple word: Agree or Disagree.
    Racist undertones?

    Its all in the eye of the beholder.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Grant, there could definitely be a time and a place to have a discussion about all that.

    But that link and your over the top rhetoric on "leftists" has absolutely nothing to do with what Rocket88 said.
    It has everything to do with it because we don't know who is carrying the signs.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Oh, I'm sure some of them are, but if everybody holding up a completely idiotic sign at a TP rally was a Leftist, that would make the Tea Party the most liberal group of people ever.

    The "Keep government out of Medicare" line is something somebody got up and shouted at a Congressman during one of those famous Town Hall meetings. But everybody who ever said anything idiotic is a Lefty -- by which definition Michele Bachmann is the most successful "infiltrator" in history.

    I also thought that the TP was supposed to be a "non-partisan, grassroots" thing. How do lefties "infiltrate" something that is open to them as well?
    It's open to everyone who shares the Tea Party point of view but carrying racist signs, in order to misrepresent that view, is dishonest and they should obviously be ejected from the gathering. The same would be true of anyone carrying a racist sign at any group gathering in order to misrepresent what the group is all about.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Actually, I did not have a problem with Sarah Palin's "Don't retreat, reload" rhetorical jab. What I DID have a problem with, however, were the "simulated" crosshairs over the geographic locations of Democrat congressional or district offices and would have had a problem with it no matter which side of the political divide the image was placed over. Nonetheless, doing such on the backdrop of her comment could easily have been taken out of context by some gun totting idiot such as the shooter behind Congresswoman Gifford's near fatal attack. Now, notice I did not say his actions were directly attributed to Palin's comment nor the crosshairs images as motivation behind his shooting rampage. But it could have easily been taken that way either by some mad man (or woman) or someone out looking for a little payback against a liberal politician. You just have to be careful about what you say and do. That said, context does mean alot!

    Now, if someone did call the President - ANY President of the United States of America - a terrorist, I would hope everyone who IS an American would be upset about that. No matter what you may think of the man (or someday perhaps "woman") personally, his ideology, his agendy or his politics, you don't show that kind of disrespect to the Office of the Presidency.
    Oh lets get real here, there is nothing the right has done, that the left hasn't done, nor is there anything the left has done that the right hasn't .. anyone that thinks otherwise has their head so far in the sand they haven't seen daylight for years.

    The whole point was the left called out for a calming of the rhetoric, what we have seen recently, is that they really didn't mean it, or are choosing to ignore it. The goes for the president as well. Thats fine, personally I don't have a problem with it, but now even the president has painted himself into a corner, where he dare not speak out against any threatening speech given by anyone against his party or the unions.

    As for the cross hairs ….are they any worse or better then a bulls eye ?? Did you hear any of the same outrage from anyone when the Democrats used bulls eyes to show what states they were going after?
    Democrats: our bullseye targets on House districts are not like Palin’s crosshair targets | Post on Politics

    Some how most liberals, find bulls eyes acceptable .. . but cross hairs not ….. can't figure out why … I guess it's because “they” did it ..

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Oh lets get real here, there is nothing the right has done, that the left hasn't done, nor is there anything the left has done that the right hasn't .. anyone that thinks otherwise has their head so far in the sand they haven't seen daylight for years.

    The whole point was the left called out for a calming of the rhetoric, what we have seen recently, is that they really didn't mean it, or are choosing to ignore it. The goes for the president as well. Thats fine, personally I don't have a problem with it, but now even the president has painted himself into a corner, where he dare not speak out against any threatening speech given by anyone against his party or the unions.

    As for the cross hairs ….are they any worse or better then a bulls eye ?? Did you hear any of the same outrage from anyone when the Democrats used bulls eyes to show what states they were going after?
    Democrats: our bullseye targets on House districts are not like Palin’s crosshair targets | Post on Politics

    Some how most liberals, find bulls eyes acceptable .. . but cross hairs not ….. can't figure out why … I guess it's because “they” did it ..
    On the other hand a Union leaders says we're going to take the sons of btches out and shortly after there is this.

    It's not 'the right wing' or the Tea Party, doing anything like this

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Barack Obama will ask the Union leader to tone down his rhetoric? That will never happen! Never!
    President Obama should invite Hoffa to the White House for dinner and ask him to bring a few more dozen union leaders with him. Hoffa set an example that should become the standard for the middle class and poor. President Obama can't do squat even if he really wanted to. If the middle class and poor want to survive it's time for them to stand up and be heard not herded like a bunch of cattle to slaughter

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