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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Federal Building wasn't propoganda, but it was the second worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The Giffords shooting wasn't propoganda. The Austin plane crash wasn't propoganda. The facts speak for themselves.
    I actually think the Giffords shooting was the result of propaganda itself. If you look back at his writing, etc., and consider it from the point of view that he became aware of the science of "persuasion" and went mad falling down that rabbit hole it makes a whole lot of sense.

    Check it out. Its a better explanation than any others I've heard. MUCH better than any of the partisan ones I've heard.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that is 100% right and glad to see your recognize that. Sadly, the war was brought just the same.
    let me rephrase...

    there is no war, and neither you nor Hoffa do not want one.

    you and Hoffa want to use terms that you are not familiar with in order to come across as strong and manly...you simply do not want war, people die in war.


    we have disagreements and differing beliefs and perspectives... we debate those differences, we vote on them, we enact legislation that favors one side or another.


    we do not wage war... that is irrational horsehockey.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    How about Fox News' long history of accusing Obama of being a Muslim, racist, terrorist sympathizing, Kenyan? Denounce away....
    The "fair and balanced" folks can't get through the day without numerous inaccuracies, distortions, falsehoods, deliberate deceptions and outright lies.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    you'd be crazy not to denounce FOX.... they edited a clip in order to give off a different vibe than what was actually said.
    ( and Hoffa was an insufferable asshole to boot.)

    don't wallow in partisanship and hypocrisy .. leave that to you opponents.
    nObma and libtards will have to demean, and insult the opposition because that's all they can run on instead of accomplishments, so Mr. Hoffa Jr. set the tempo for the election and I am very glad because people are getting more pissed off than ever and is going to backfire. :
    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure you read them.

    If you had then you would know that the first one was an autobiography. You think he should have lied about what he was thinking and doing when he was a child?
    One was written in 2007 and the other one in 2008. He was an adult and not while he was growing up. Don't make excuses for a grown man.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    nObma and libtards will have to demean, and insult the opposition because that's all they can run on instead of accomplishments, so Mr. Hoffa Jr. set the tempo for the election and I am very glad because people are getting more pissed off than ever and is going to backfire. :
    Using words like n0bma and libtards makes people immediately dismiss you as a crank. Just FYI. At this point it really doesn't matter what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    One was written in 2007 and the other one in 2008. He was an adult and not while he was growing up. Don't make excuses for a grown man.
    He was talking about what his thoughts were as a child. It would be dishonest to leave them out, wouldn't you say? I'm not proud of it, but when I was a child I once thought the street was melting. I'd absolutely put that in an autobiography.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    let me rephrase...

    there is no war, and neither you nor Hoffa do not want one.

    you and Hoffa want to use terms that you are not familiar with in order to come across as strong and manly...you simply do not want war, people die in war.


    we have disagreements and differing beliefs and perspectives... we debate those differences, we vote on them, we enact legislation that favors one side or another.


    we do not wage war... that is irrational horsehockey.
    the self proclaimed "capitalist tool" FORBES MAGAZINE disagrees with you and documents the war on unions and working people.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...s-is-underway/

    Its really NOT a secret anymore so the warriors of the far right do not have to pretend that it is not being waged. That cover has been blown.

    I suspect that few if any of the various forces that existed in the decade of the 1850's expected a war or they or their sons to die in it. But it came just the same.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There was very little "outrage" last time this came up.. that is until one of your own started a shooting spree targeting the political opposition...

    but regardless of that... the "left" did not have to manipulate comments or take them out of context like what Fox News and you lot have done here.
    This is a prime example of Libbo dishonestly and hypocrisy. Jared Laughner didn't have any kind of political affiliation and the Libbos took advantage of the coincidence that Giffords was his victim, when he picked a random politician to go nut job on.

    And, so far, no one from the Left has said a word about,

    Andre Carson saying that the Tea Party wants to lynch blacks.

    Maxine Waters saying that the Tea Party can go, "straight to hell", and they are, "the enemy.

    John Lewis flat out lieing about being called a nigger and getting spit on by Tea Partiers.

    Obama called the Tea party the enemy.

    Joe Biden called Republicans terrorists and barbarians.

    Not a word, about any of that.

    There's going to be riots when Obama gets voted out and it's going to started by some of the same Leftist culprits I listed above, but the blood will be on the hands of all Libbos, for not saying something, before it happens.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I actually think the Giffords shooting was the result of propaganda itself. If you look back at his writing, etc., and consider it from the point of view that he became aware of the science of "persuasion" and went mad falling down that rabbit hole it makes a whole lot of sense.

    Check it out. Its a better explanation than any others I've heard. MUCH better than any of the partisan ones I've heard.
    Giffords was shot by a disgruntled crazy dude... politics ,as reasonable people understand it, was not involved.
    the Austin plane guy was simply a disturbed idiot of no coherent political persuasion.

    for anyone to sell them as right wingers ( or left wingers) is inaccurate and not backed by evidence or facts.

    the wiki article touches on loughner's motivations.. but more importantly, disputes accusations made here about his political leanings.
    Loughner's best friend, Zach Osler, disputed speculation by media commentators that Loughner's actions were fueled by partisan politics and rhetoric, insisting, "He did not watch TV, he disliked the news, he didn't listen to political radio, he didn't take sides, he wasn't on the Left, he wasn't on the Right," and instead conspiracy theories had a profound effect on him.[10] Another friend, Zane Gutierrez, later told the New York Times that Loughner's anger would also "well up at the sight of President George W. Bush or in discussing what he considered to be the nefarious designs of government."
    he was, and is, a nutbar

    Jospeh stack ( the Austin plane guy) wrote a manifesto... and really, it's ideologically incoherent and a bit crazy... he basically hated everything, especially the IRS. he hated corporations, unions, government, business, Bush, the FAA, the catholic church, health insurance, bailouts, .. and probably kittens too.
    in other words, he's another nutbar.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Federal Building wasn't propoganda, but it was the second worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The Giffords shooting wasn't propoganda. The Austin plane crash wasn't propoganda. The facts speak for themselves.
    The fact is, they were all lone nuts. The only one that even remotely had a political agenda was McVeigh.

    Where were you during the Crown Heights riots? Or the Rodney King riots, where Maxine Waters condoned an attack on Reginald Denny, causing him permanent brain damage, when he suffered a blow to the head? I guess that OK, since it's racist to criticize black folks. Yes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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