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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    From the two books that Obama wrote:

    From "Dreams From My Father":

    "I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

    And From "Audacity of Hope":

    "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

    Now.. What do you have to say about this???
    What I would say is that the first book was about Obama's formative years, and he was talking about coming to grips with his half-black/half-white lineage, when he had essentially no contact with his birth father. It was a coming of age stoy -- not a recitation of his current beliefs.

    The second quote is, typically, taken out of context. He was saying that he would support Muslims if there was a witch hunt against them, such as we saw against Japanese Americans during WWII.

    Now who's going to step up to the plate and denounce Fox?

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    economic reality appears to be what you claim is a "war" on "working" people just as grading curves are a war on the uneducated and track meets are a jihad against the slow
    You do need to keep up. the self proclaimed "capitalist tool" Forbes Magazine publicly agrees that the war is in full swing:

    The Final Battle In The War Against Unions Is Underway - Forbes

    Apparently some on the far right did not get the memo that its not a secret anymore that they need to publicly deny.
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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    How about Fox News' long history of accusing Obama of being a Muslim, racist, terrorist sympathizing, Kenyan? Denounce away....
    Here are 4 more quotations from Obama's two books.

    From "Dreams From My Father":

    "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

    From "Dreams From My Father" :

    "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

    From reams From My Father":

    "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white."

    From reams From My Father":

    "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."
    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    What we know is that Hoffa presented himself like a moronic asshole. He refuses to apologize, which reaffirms his status as a moronic asshole. Rhetoric like this from either side hurts American politics. There should be no excusing of his actions.
    What did he say that he should apologize for? Is Fox going to apologize for misrepresenting what he said?

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You do need to keep up. the self proclaimed "capitalist tool" Forbes Magazine publicly agrees that the war is in full swing:

    The Final Battle In The War Against Unions Is Underway - Forbes

    Apparently some on the far right did not get the memo that its not a secret anymore that they need to publicly deny.
    you make the unionista error of pretending that unions=working people



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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Fox Doctors Hoffa Speech To Fabricate Call For Violence | Media Matters for America


    Right-wing bloggers misled by dishonest Fox News video editing are attacking Teamsters President James Hoffa, Jr. for supposedly urging violence against Tea Party activists during a Labor Day speech. Conservatives are also attacking President Obama, who appeared at the event, for "sanctioning violence against fellow Americans" by failing to denounce Hoffa. But fuller context included in other Fox segments makes clear that Hoffa wasn't calling for violence but was actually urging the crowd to vote out Republican members of Congress.

    During the segment that the bloggers have latched onto, Fox edited out the bolded portion of Hoffa's comments:


    HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize,let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!
    In an initial report on Hoffa's speech at 1 p.m. on Fox News, Ed Henry reported that Hoffa said that "we'll remember in November who's with the working people" and "said of the Tea Party and of Republicans, 'let's take these sons of bitches out.'"

    [snip]
    Ok, so what's different?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    Here are 4 more quotations from Obama's two books.

    From "Dreams From My Father":

    "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

    From "Dreams From My Father" :

    "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

    From reams From My Father":

    "There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white."

    From reams From My Father":

    "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."
    Right, again, this was an introspective book about his mental process as he was growing up. I've actually read it, so I understand the context. Have you?

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's pretty clear what Hoffa meant by his comment:

    HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize,let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!
    What about the part where Hoffa says he has an army and they're ready to march?

    try as you may, but you won't be able to propagandize your way out of this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    How is the weather over there on planet right wing paranoia and crazy?

    Just because you keep repeating a small snip of what he said, does not mean that you are right or that the total meaning of what he said will change ....
    if someone said it's time to take Obama out, you would be cool with it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, again, this was an introspective book about his mental process as he was growing up. I've actually read it, so I understand the context. Have you?
    Excuses excuses and very lame by the way.

    You will always see politics through tunnel vision. Some people just can't see the truth even if it slaps them on the cheek.

    I never heard nObama apologizing for this statements nor his books. Have you??
    Catch me if you can.

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