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Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

This is really a bull**** thread. The black community has really only had equal rights for less than 50 years. How long do you think it took the immigrant italian, polish, irish, etc..., to create a fully developed community. I have little doubt that minority (except asian :) ) unemployment will converge with the average 50 years from now. Institutional racism is really just a drag on efficiency.
 
It seems to me that the person who is best qualified deserves the promotion, period. It should never be about race, creed, color or sex. Either you earned it or you didn't.

The black community has really only had equal rights for less than 50 years
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lame ass excuse
 
lame ass excuse

I am not making any excuses, just pointing out a reality. How can we expect a specific demographic of this country to achieve equal development (on the average) when this very demographic did not have equal rights until about 50 years ago?
 
they tend to breed far more than smart people. smart people tend to have kids after they complete their residencies, apprenticeships or make partner

That really sounds eugenics-esque.
 
Oh your comments are so full of bull**** it's not even funny. Equating welfare to slavery is like equating conservatism to pedophiles. Grow up and cut out the idiotic rhetoric.No black person is being forced into welfare. I'll admit welfare needs reform but it is far from being slavery and a black person such as yourself should ashamed to even make thst comparison given what true slaves went through.

well, I grew up on that end of the system; you didn't. You came from your white bread world, joined the service and now you're living in the lap of luxury with your government funded retirement. Did anyone promise you anything, because you're an, "oppressed minority", or did you know, from the git-go, that you had to get off your ass and get it for yourself?

Then, you're going to tel me, as a black person, what I should be ashamed of? What the **** do you know about, ****, dude?

People call me a racist? Too bad my black brothers are too caught up in their own political bull**** to stand up against this.
 
Actually, its said that you are not black and that you are a Tom because of the things that come out of your mouth such as:

Sounds like that whole stereotype thing that Libbos constantly complain about. I must not be black, because I, "think white". Yes?


Once again, I hope you read some of the books I mentioned http://www.debatepolitics.com/book-nook/26529-you-reading-right-now-139.html#post1059779077

EDIT: Bolded certain parts of the post

You do realize that there was no United States prior to 1776? Try reading some actual history vice political agenda doctrines. Just a hint.

Are you at all aware that To Be a Slave is a children's book? That can only mean two things: 1) You're still in jr. high and on this forum trying to act like an adult, or 2) You just saw the title somewhere and thought you would try to look cool and say you were reading it. Either way, I seriously hope you're not choosing a children's book as some sorta historical work. It's time for you to be really, really, really, really honest.
 
they tend to breed far more than smart people. smart people tend to have kids after they complete their residencies, apprenticeships or make partner

Agreed

Part of being an adult is to recognize and acknowledge what you can and what you can't do. An 18 year old has no business creating a family and trying to support it on minimum wage. A 24 year old or 30 year old is even worse. If you can barely support yourself, you don't acquire and start a family. You get an education, you move up and then, when you actually have the assets and income, you start a family.
 
Why are you arguing that black accountants and black journalists are racists. That doesn't make sense.

That's a complete non sequiter. :confused:
 
well, I grew up on that end of the system; you didn't. You came from your white bread world, joined the service and now you're living in the lap of luxury with your government funded retirement. Did anyone promise you anything, because you're an, "oppressed minority", or did you know, from the git-go, that you had to get off your ass and get it for yourself?

Then, you're going to tel me, as a black person, what I should be ashamed of? What the **** do you know about, ****, dude?

People call me a racist? Too bad my black brothers are too caught up in their own political bull**** to stand up against this.

Another non sequiter. Welfare is not based on race. There are more white people on welfare than black people (though a lower percentage).
 
This is really a bull**** thread. The black community has really only had equal rights for less than 50 years. How long do you think it took the immigrant italian, polish, irish, etc..., to create a fully developed community. I have little doubt that minority (except asian :) ) unemployment will converge with the average 50 years from now. Institutional racism is really just a drag on efficiency.
Tell me this, how come Vietnamese can come over here on a freaking boat, with almost no clothes or possessions, and within just a few years are running a business?
 
Another non sequiter. Welfare is not based on race. There are more white people on welfare than black people (though a lower percentage).

And that my friend is the most important factor.
 
Come on, you Cowards, apdst, American... Come out and say what you want to say.

Spill your racist backwards beliefs all over the board. Stop holding it it.

Just admit you don't like Obama because he's black. His policies, taxes, economics, health care reform, banking... all that crap is wa-aaay over your bigoted little pinheads.

Just admit you don't like having a BLACK MAN in the WHITE HOUSE.

Stop being such scared little cowards and say what you want.
 
Come on, you Cowards, apdst, American... Come out and say what you want to say.

Spill your racist backwards beliefs all over the board. Stop holding it it.

Just admit you don't like Obama because he's black. His policies, taxes, economics, health care reform, banking... all that crap is wa-aaay over your bigoted little pinheads.

Just admit you don't like having a BLACK MAN in the WHITE HOUSE.

Stop being such scared little cowards and say what you want.


OH STFU! Apdst is black for crying out ****ing loud. Obama's policies both domestic and foreign have brought nothing but death, suffering and thuggery. Pond scum like Pat Buchanan like people like you because he can screw his bigoted garbage and come out with "well the liberals did this" and other related excuses.
 
Come on, you Cowards, apdst, American... Come out and say what you want to say.

Spill your racist backwards beliefs all over the board. Stop holding it it.

Just admit you don't like Obama because he's black. His policies, taxes, economics, health care reform, banking... all that crap is wa-aaay over your bigoted little pinheads.

Just admit you don't like having a BLACK MAN in the WHITE HOUSE.

Stop being such scared little cowards and say what you want.

Not until you finally admit you're an unemployed pedophile living in your mom's basement.
 
Come on, you Cowards, apdst, American... Come out and say what you want to say.

Spill your racist backwards beliefs all over the board. Stop holding it it.

Just admit you don't like Obama because he's black. His policies, taxes, economics, health care reform, banking... all that crap is wa-aaay over your bigoted little pinheads.

Just admit you don't like having a BLACK MAN in the WHITE HOUSE.

Stop being such scared little cowards and say what you want.


Obama's a socialist. Period. ...Isn't that enough to hate him for?
 
Black un-enemployment is highest in 27 years?......WHAT!!!!

Topic should read....."BLACK EDUCATION IS HIGHEST OF ALL TIME"

And it's their own faults - nobody elses. In todays world, anyone can make what-ever they choose of themselves.

If the Mexicans, Cubans, Haitians, Guatimalans, Muslims, People from India come to America and find work, get Educations. Why can't those American born Black's do the same.....Reason - Looking for Handouts.

The majority of Blacks choose to be lazy, and cared for by, and through the Goverment.
Thus part of the financial problem situation we as a nation are in today.

I have no pity for any self made Ignorant Liberal Bastard.
 
ric27 said:
They are very well educated, and have **** figured out way more than the rest of us do. They are what passes for "royalty" in American society and they know it and generally they are very effective at getting stuff done when they are of a mind to do so. Unfortunately for us, the agenda is being set by lobbyists, so the stuff that gets done doesn't serve the likes of you and I very well.

There's an old saw that goes like this...
“Just because you’re on their side doesn’t mean they’re on your side.”

If you grasp this and understand it, it makes politics a lot less frustrating...:)
 
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Sounds like that whole stereotype thing that Libbos constantly complain about. I must not be black, because I, "think white". Yes?




You do realize that there was no United States prior to 1776? Try reading some actual history vice political agenda doctrines. Just a hint.

Are you at all aware that To Be a Slave is a children's book? That can only mean two things: 1) You're still in jr. high and on this forum trying to act like an adult, or 2) You just saw the title somewhere and thought you would try to look cool and say you were reading it. Either way, I seriously hope you're not choosing a children's book as some sorta historical work. It's time for you to be really, really, really, really honest.

I find this quite entertaining. I am currently a college student. Also To Be A Slave is not a children's book. Would a children's book include graphic descriptions of slaves getting lashed? No, it would not.

Now please, tell me how the fugitive slave laws were not meant to harm black people?

Also, please tell me how slavery did not exist for 200 years?

EDIT: Explain to me adpst, why do you deny your own history?

Its time for you to be truly honest.
 
There's an old saw that goes like this...
“Just because you’re on their side doesn’t mean they’re on your side.”

If you grasp this and understand it, it makes politics a lot less frustrating...:)

While divergent opinions indeed are necessary to a thriving republic, it's not too much to expect common respect for the Constitution, protection of individual liberties, spending only within our means, and appreciation for the proper role of state and local governments.
 
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That's a complete non sequiter. :confused:

See here:


Wrong conclusion. This is class discrimination against a small cross-section of the black community, not race discrimination. Look at all of the names that the researchers assigned to blacks. Let's call them ghetto names. Look at all of the names the researchers assigned to whites. Let's call them middle class names.

What do we discover when we look at the leadership of black professional societies? What kind of names do these black leaders have? Do they have ghetto names or do they have middle class names.

Here are the board names of the National Association of Black Journalists:


Gregory Lee, Errin Haines, Bob Butler, Lisa Cox, Keith Reed, Cindy George, Dedrick Russell, A. J. Ross, Michelle Fitzhugh-Craig, Dawn Roberts.​


Here are the names of the leadership of the National Association of Black Accountants:


Calvin Harris, Jr, Gregory Johnson, Shariah Dixon-Turner, Wayne Lee, Veda Stanley, Walter J. Smith, Ronald P. Walker, Celia Thompkins, Tina O. McIntyre, W. Delores Lewis, Sheila Taylor-Clark, James Brown, Arica Harris, Monica Y. Brame, Charles V. Daniel, Carriea Flowers, Robert Dunlap, Steven L. Harris, Kenneth Cooke, Nora Ramzy, Uso Sayers, Manuel Torres.​


Clearly, even blacks are discriminating against blacks.

What's really going on is not discrimination based on race, but a sorting based on class. The human resources departments operate on this heuristic because they look about them and likely don't see too many Lakishas and Jamals amongst their black executives and from past experience they've learned when they analyze the resumes of the Lakishas and Jamals, that these applicants were clearly not qualified.

Even the researchers make note of this alternative explanation, but to know this you'd actually have had to read the study rather than relying on the biased media coverage of the study:


One simple alternative model is lexicographic search by employers. Employers receive so many resumes that they may use quick heuristics in reading these resumes. One such heuristic could be to simply read no further when they see an African American name. Thus they may never see the skills of African American candidates and this could explain why these skills are not rewarded.​
 
See here:


Wrong conclusion. This is class discrimination against a small cross-section of the black community, not race discrimination. Look at all of the names that the researchers assigned to blacks. Let's call them ghetto names. Look at all of the names the researchers assigned to whites. Let's call them middle class names.

What do we discover when we look at the leadership of black professional societies? What kind of names do these black leaders have? Do they have ghetto names or do they have middle class names.

Here are the board names of the National Association of Black Journalists:


Gregory Lee, Errin Haines, Bob Butler, Lisa Cox, Keith Reed, Cindy George, Dedrick Russell, A. J. Ross, Michelle Fitzhugh-Craig, Dawn Roberts.​


Here are the names of the leadership of the National Association of Black Accountants:


Calvin Harris, Jr, Gregory Johnson, Shariah Dixon-Turner, Wayne Lee, Veda Stanley, Walter J. Smith, Ronald P. Walker, Celia Thompkins, Tina O. McIntyre, W. Delores Lewis, Sheila Taylor-Clark, James Brown, Arica Harris, Monica Y. Brame, Charles V. Daniel, Carriea Flowers, Robert Dunlap, Steven L. Harris, Kenneth Cooke, Nora Ramzy, Uso Sayers, Manuel Torres.​


Clearly, even blacks are discriminating against blacks.

What's really going on is not discrimination based on race, but a sorting based on class. The human resources departments operate on this heuristic because they look about them and likely don't see too many Lakishas and Jamals amongst their black executives and from past experience they've learned when they analyze the resumes of the Lakishas and Jamals, that these applicants were clearly not qualified.

Even the researchers make note of this alternative explanation, but to know this you'd actually have had to read the study rather than relying on the biased media coverage of the study:


One simple alternative model is lexicographic search by employers. Employers receive so many resumes that they may use quick heuristics in reading these resumes. One such heuristic could be to simply read no further when they see an African American name. Thus they may never see the skills of African American candidates and this could explain why these skills are not rewarded.​



Seriously? Is that what you meant when you said you had debunked this particular study? :lol:

Obviously the study wouldn't have proven anything if they hadn't picked names that easily identified people as blacks; that was the whole point!
 
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