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Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

You certainly have a habit of ignoring what is said to you in favor of insults and attacks.

Do you believe this somehow adds credibility to your image when you are impotent to actually respond to what is being discussed?

Says the kid that brought up slavery asking for a fight.
 
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Hope and change, baby, hope and change. :thumbs:

Wait you're posting a source, which by the way isn't affiliated with the gov't, that states quote "racial discrimination in the labor market continues to play a role" and you are AGAINST change? Just because its an Obama campaign slogan? What the hell....
 
My mistake. Can you summarize just which skill sets blacks lack that whites don't that might cause such a discrepancy, or at least provide a source to back up your opinion?

The mean IQ of blacks is 85. The mean IQ of whites is 100. One half of the white population has an IQ below 100. 5/6ths of the black population has an IQ below 100. The Military has a qualifying test for potential enlistees:


Among white test-takers, 16 percent scored below the minimum score required by the Army. For Hispanic candidates, the rate of ineligibility was 29 percent. And for African-American youth, it was 39 percent. These dismally high ineligible rates for minority youth in our subsample of data are similar to the ineligible rates of all minority Army applicants as recorded over the last ten years.​


People who can't qualify to enlist in the military are also going to have trouble in the civilian job market.
 
Says the kid that brought up slavery asking for a fight.

Perhaps this is news to you Henrin - slavery is a historical reality. Bringing it up is not asking for a fight. It is merely introducing a part of the historical record.
 
The mean IQ of blacks is 85. The mean IQ of whites is 100. One half of the white population has an IQ below 100. 5/6ths of the black population has an IQ below 100. The Military has a qualifying test for potential enlistees:


Among white test-takers, 16 percent scored below the minimum score required by the Army. For Hispanic candidates, the rate of ineligibility was 29 percent. And for African-American youth, it was 39 percent. These dismally high ineligible rates for minority youth in our subsample of data are similar to the ineligible rates of all minority Army applicants as recorded over the last ten years.​


People who can't qualify to enlist in the military are also going to have trouble in the civilian job market.

I've taken the EST and the ASVAB. It's completely passable if you have a working understanding of basic arithmetic and the English language.

I was more curious to find out what thrilla was talking about when he was referring to skills mismatches that seem to put blacks at a disadvantage.

Also, RD, racial discrepancies exist even when we control for other factors like intelligence, qualifications, experience, etc.
 
Quit wearing a do-rag to interviews.
 
Perhaps this is news to you Henrin - slavery is a historical reality. Bringing it up is not asking for a fight. It is merely introducing a part of the historical record.

Well, lets tread these historical realities...

Does slavery still exist? Is slavery still legal in the United States?
 
I've taken the EST and the ASVAB. It's completely passable if you have a working understanding of basic arithmetic and the English language.

Which is why I referenced the AFQT rather than the SAT and higher order tests. This is basic stuff. The people that fail are not qualified to join the military because the military has determined that they're more trouble than their worth - hard to teach, won't take direction or have trouble understanding what is being asked of them, don't do assigned duties very well, etc. As "employees" they're a lot of trouble and the same factors which make them such a headache for the military also make them unattractive job candidates in the civilian labor market.

Also, RD, racial discrepancies exist even when we control for other factors like intelligence, qualifications, experience, etc.

Knock out the obvious first and then winnow down what's left and you get a better understanding of what is really happening instead of just looking at raw numbers and assuming that everything is equal. Then we can look at the residual which cannot be explained and talk about that.
 
Being a liberal, I think you ought be ashamed to admit you're confused. Supposedly you people have been looking out for blacks since at least the 1960's. So what the hell are you doing?

To be fair, StillBallin is not a radical, knee-jerk liberal. He is generally pretty moderate and reasonable, unlike some of the lefties around here...
 
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Hope and change, baby, hope and change. :thumbs:

As usual you in your partisan mind forget to ask the real questions.

1. Why is black unemployment consistently higher than white?
2. The sharp rise at the end is because of what?

If you bothered asking these questions instead of using the statistics as a partisan attack tool, then maybe you would not look so foolish when you actually find out that the level which black unemployment is at now... the consistent level (yes it is high) is most of Obama's presidency, but the massive rise happened during the last president... your hero Bush.
 
Yes, I hear do-rags affect work ethic...
they affect how professional you look. You think a business is going to hire a person who doesn't bother to make themselves look professional?
 
As usual you in your partisan mind forget to ask the real questions.

1. Why is black unemployment consistently higher than white?
2. The sharp rise at the end is because of what?

If you bothered asking these questions instead of using the statistics as a partisan attack tool, then maybe you would not look so foolish when you actually find out that the level which black unemployment is at now... the consistent level (yes it is high) is most of Obama's presidency, but the massive rise happened during the last president... your hero Bush.
OH, nothing partisan in your perspective. HAHAHAHAHAH
 
they affect how professional you look. You think a business is going to hire a person who doesn't bother to make themselves look professional?

I think our culture, too often, values looks over substance, making it easier for us to quickly judge people based on how they look/dress rather than what really matters, a lot of the time.
 
I think our culture, too often, values looks over substance, making it easier for us to quickly judge people based on how they look/dress rather than what really matters, a lot of the time.

Then as you know that issue has more facets than just skin color. Heavy very fit people, tall versus short, good looking etc. That being said have you discussed high school drop out rates yet?
 
Then as you know that issue has more facets than just skin color. Heavy very fit people, tall versus short, good looking etc. That being said have you discussed high school drop out rates yet?

I wasn't talking about race specifically in that post. Merely pointing how human beings find it easy to judge others based on their appearance, rather than taking the time to figure out what's underneath. Everyone's guilty of subconsciously judging an individual when meeting them for the first time, before they even open their mouth or shake one's hand. And employers are no less fallible than the rest of us.
 
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What's wrong with all those black people, clearly they don't have the guts to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and help themselves!

Oh wait, no, it's all Obama's fault they can't help themselves!

black people's fault? Obama's fault? Wait, i'm confused now...

Well the blame belongs to someone. The blame whitey engine is running out of gas. So, who do we blame, next?
 
Well the blame belongs to someone. The blame whitey engine is running out of gas. So, who do we blame, next?

no one individual or group is solely to blame. It's a structural/systematic problem.
 
this speaks more to the point of not having proper skill sets than any perceived racial discrimination.

in this economy, ya got to have the skillz' or you get to sit home and wonder why you're poor and unemployed/unemployable

There's only way to get those skills, too. Sitting at home, waiting for the government to make everything ok isn't one of them.
 
What evidence do you have that it's a skills mismatch problem when it comes to that huge disparity?

And I would add that even if it's not employers themselves that are engaging in racist behavior (either consciously or subconsciously), this is still evidence of institutionalized racism.

I thought you were smarter than that.
 
I thought you were smarter than that.

Look into the issue of structural/systematic/institutionalized racism. Racism can still exist without people being racists. It's got historical and social implications.
 
this speaks more to the point of not having proper skill sets than any perceived racial discrimination.

in this economy, ya got to have the skillz' or you get to sit home and wonder why you're poor and unemployed/unemployable

There's only way to get those skills, too. Sitting at home, waiting for the government to make everything ok isn't one of them.

I've got to ask this question again. What precisely are these skills that black folks lack that other people have? And why do blacks not have them while other people do? Are blacks simply lazier than everyone else and refuse to get such training? Examples, anyone?
 
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What evidence do you have that it's a skills mismatch problem when it comes to that huge disparity?

And I would add that even if it's not employers themselves that are engaging in racist behavior (either consciously or subconsciously), this is still evidence of institutionalized racism.

More blacks drop out of school than whites. The problems starts at the bottom, with education. It's very simple to see if you take off your blinders. Lack of education/skills is directly related to unemployment. If more blacks drop out than whites, then naturally more blacks will be unemployed. It's really quite simple. So it's not because of their race, it's because by far their race drops out of school more than whites. Blaming it on skin color is like blaming Ford when you drain the oil from your truck and then burn up the engine driving it down the road.

More than twice as many blacks drop out of high school than whites. 81% of white high school students receive their high school diplomas within 4 years, with only 61% of blacks receiving theirs. And you really blame race as to why they can't find a job?

Report: More Blacks Than Whites Dropping out of High School
 
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no one individual or group is solely to blame. It's a structural/systematic problem.

And, who are we to believe that created the structural/systematic problem? Whitey, right?
 
I've got to ask this question again. What precisely are these skills that black folks lack that other people have? And why do blacks not have them while other people do? Are blacks simply lazier than everyone else and refuse to get such training? Examples, anyone?

It's because the black community has been indoctrinated by the Left, that they 1) can't succeed without someone's help, because of the unsurmountable racism and 2) they should just sit back and let the do-gooders do things for them.

I have skills that allow me to make a living and you can damn well believe, no one gave anything to me.
 
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