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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I've got to ask this question again. What precisely are these skills that black folks lack that other people have? And why do blacks not have them while other people do? Are blacks simply lazier than everyone else and refuse to get such training? Examples, anyone?
    The way to to become more competitive (EVERYONE) is to un**** the education system....and American culture in general.

    MY dad always points this out to me ...

    30 years ago popular kids ****ed with kids in school who had marginal personality types. Today that sort of bullying isn't allowed, and even the hint of such a thing is cause for suspension (or worse) of the person perceived to be the aggressor. In fact the marginal personality types have been mainstreamed by the system. High performance in the classroom or in the athletic arena isn't respected or reinforced. On the other hand, mediocrity is honored above all else. This is where the American public school system is today, and where American society is heading

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's because the black community has been indoctrinated by the Left, that they 1) can't succeed without someone's help, because of the unsurmountable racism and 2) they should just sit back and let the do-gooders do things for them.

    I have skills that allow me to make a living and you can damn well believe, no one gave anything to me.
    Well no, you're white, you're expected to work for everything you have and then keep your mouth shut when the gov't wants to take half of it and give it to those who choose not to work.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Look into the issue of structural/systematic/institutionalized racism. Racism can still exist without people being racists. It's got historical and social implications.
    Sure it can and it's up to the individual to move ahead, despite that racism.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

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    Well no, you're white, you're expected to work for everything you have and then keep your mouth shut when the gov't wants to take half of it and give it to those who choose not to work.
    I'm black; but, I'm still expected to keep my mouth shut.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure it can and it's up to the individual to move ahead, despite that racism.
    I completely agree, it's the individual's responsibility to do whatever he or she can despite the barriers that may exist. However, the fact that those barriers continue to exist is still a problem that merits pointing out.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I've got to ask this question again. What precisely are these skills that black folks lack that other people have? And why do blacks not have them while other people do? Are blacks simply lazier than everyone else and refuse to get such training? Examples, anyone?
    Obviously, blacks--in general--lack quite a few skills, since the unemployment rate is nearly twice the national average. Pride and ambition being the two things the black community lacks the most.

    There's a huge problem, when black folks will stand in freezing weather, lined up for blocks, based on the mere rumor of a government handout, but you won't get nearly as many to do the same thing for a job. it comes from the do-gooder plantation system that has been instituted in this country.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    More blacks drop out of school than whites. The problems starts at the bottom, with education. It's very simple to see if you take off your blinders. Lack of education/skills is directly related to unemployment. If more blacks drop out than whites, then naturally more blacks will be unemployed. It's really quite simple. So it's not because of their race, it's because by far their race drops out of school more than whites. Blaming it on skin color is like blaming Ford when you drain the oil from your truck and then burn up the engine driving it down the road.

    More than twice as many blacks drop out of high school than whites. 81% of white high school students receive their high school diplomas within 4 years, with only 61% of blacks receiving theirs. And you really blame race as to why they can't find a job?

    Report: More Blacks Than Whites Dropping out of High School
    This is a problem, but even when controlling for educational differences and qualifications, there still exists a discrepancy. It's right there in the OP, if you had read carefully. Racism may or may not explain that difference, but clearly everything you've laid out about education here has already been accounted for.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, who are we to believe that created the structural/systematic problem? Whitey, right?
    I would say history, in which "whitey" played a major part. However there's a distinction between that and saying today's white people are responsible, because I don't believe that they are.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, who are we to believe that created the structural/systematic problem? Whitey, right?
    Its the stereotypes built into our everyday lives. Don't act like you have never heard them before. Mexican people are illegal immigrants, belong to gangs, steal stuff, and are poor, black people are lazy, have "welfare queen" moms, eat fried chicken and watermelon, white people can't jump, blondes are dumb, etc... the list goes on. They aren't true most the time, but because of the stereotypes built up in American society over the years people more quickly jump to these conclusions.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I completely agree, it's the individual's responsibility to do whatever he or she can despite the barriers that may exist. However, the fact that those barriers continue to exist is still a problem that merits pointing out.
    The problem is, however, it's not just being, "pointed out". It's being used as an excuse for failure and for government intervention in the private sector.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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