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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    All well and good, but you are ignoring the fact that blacks are still discriminated against in 2011. Is that an excuse for them not to try to get ahead? Of course not. Does that mean that we should ignore the problem. Of course not.
    Democrats have failed to stop discrimination, therefore your policies have failed. You guys keep passing thousands of laws, and never fix any of this.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Let's test that sob story against Vietnamese boat people.
    Vietnamese come over here wearing scraps, and within a couple years own businesses.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    By any rational measure, the outcomes for blacks and Vietnamese should be flipped and it should be the Vietnamese who are suffering higher rates of poverty and unemployment for they had the far larger structural disadvantages. The fact that the roles are not flipped is strong testimony to the fact that the system is not causing the social disparity that afflicts America's black community.
    How does the immigration of the Vietnamese cancel out the history of black Americans that already existed before the Vietnamese got here?

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    How does the immigration of the Vietnamese cancel out the history of black Americans that already existed before the Vietnamese got here?
    Because one is a study of a population that understood the opportunity and does the things necessary to get ahead, and the other is a story of a population using guilt, and relying on parlaying that into handouts to survive.

    Get it?

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Because one is a study of a population that understood the opportunity and does the things necessary to get ahead, and the other is a story of a population using guilt, and relying on parlaying that into handouts to survive.
    I'm still waiting for the part where someone shows how the history of black Americans hasn't contributed to the current position of much of their population.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I'm still waiting for the part where someone shows how the history of black Americans hasn't contributed to the current position of much of their population.

    How many generations must go by while blacks wait for some fictitious hand out in the form of reparations, or fail to understand the role democrat politicians have in keeping the black community slave to the new plantation of the inner city poverty, and crime, and welfare.

    And all for a vote....pathetic.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    How does the immigration of the Vietnamese cancel out the history of black Americans that already existed before the Vietnamese got here?
    it's not "canceling out" anything.

    The point being made, it seems to me, is that the Vietnamese people were able to follow the American dream despite their difficulties when they arrived, and were able to overcome them. With the Government claiming that Blacks always needed a 'step' up' because of past racist policies (200 years according to you) and that Black people should continue to get special treatment because of their past, affirmative action for example, which were denied Vietnamese people and others.

    This could have a far greater negative effect on the Black psyche than the slavery and Jim Crow Laws their ancestors were forced to suffer through. Now the Democrats have told Black Americans that because of their history they are unable to compete with the Vietnamese and should therefore get special treatment. Why? Are the Vietnamese people any smarter than Black people? I certainly don't think so, but apparently Leftists do.

    It's actually surprising that Black People have done as well as they have when considering their treatment by the Democrat Party. They have been talked down to, claimed they need special programs designed exclusively for them to succeed, and openly treated as second class citizens. Black people should rise up against these paternalistic policies and claim their rightful, and lofty, place in American history and they're remarkable achievements made despite Jim Crow Laws. The United States would be so much the poorer in spirit and in fact without those great Black Americans who made America what it is today, and despite the conditions under which many of them lived and suffered.. But when the laws couldn't effectively break the Black spirit, food stamps and other programs can.

    I don't care much for Barrack Obama as US President and to me he is payback as an example of what 'Affirmative Action' has done to Black people. And BHO knows and understands the game being perpetuated on Black people, how he will 'talk Black' when speaking to them, or claim a connection to Selma, Alabama, when none exists. This is what the Democrats do, no matter their color. It is the party and power first.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How many generations must go by while blacks wait for some fictitious hand out in the form of reparations, or fail to understand the role democrat politicians have in keeping the black community slave to the new plantation of the inner city poverty, and crime, and welfare.

    And all for a vote....pathetic.
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    Yeah keeping black people slaves whilst at the same time electing one to the highest office in the land

    Could your arguments be anymore transparent.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How many generations must go by while blacks wait for some fictitious hand out in the form of reparations, or fail to understand the role democrat politicians have in keeping the black community slave to the new plantation of the inner city poverty, and crime, and welfare.

    And all for a vote....pathetic.
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    I'm still waiting for that explanation of how history influences every population except black Americans.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    it's not "canceling out" anything.

    The point being made, it seems to me, is that the Vietnamese people were able to follow the American dream despite their difficulties when they arrived, and were able to overcome them. With the Government claiming that Blacks always needed a 'step' up' because of past racist policies (200 years according to you) and that Black people should continue to get special treatment because of their past, affirmative action for example, which were denied Vietnamese people and others.

    This could have a far greater negative effect on the Black psyche than the slavery and Jim Crow Laws their ancestors were forced to suffer through. Now the Democrats have told Black Americans that because of their history they are unable to compete with the Vietnamese and should therefore get special treatment. Why? Are the Vietnamese people any smarter than Black people? I certainly don't think so, but apparently Leftists do.

    It's actually surprising that Black People have done as well as they have when considering their treatment by the Democrat Party. They have been talked down to, claimed they need special programs designed exclusively for them to succeed, and openly treated as second class citizens. Black people should rise up against these paternalistic policies and claim their rightful, and lofty, place in American history and they're remarkable achievements made despite Jim Crow Laws. The United States would be so much the poorer in spirit and in fact without those great Black Americans who made America what it is today, and despite the conditions under which many of them lived and suffered.. But when the laws couldn't effectively break the Black spirit, food stamps and other programs can.

    I don't care much for Barrack Obama as US President and to me he is payback as an example of what 'Affirmative Action' has done to Black people. And BHO knows and understands the game being perpetuated on Black people, how he will 'talk Black' when speaking to them, or claim a connection to Selma, Alabama, when none exists. This is what the Democrats do, no matter their color. It is the party and power first.
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    Well that was a post full of delusion. It doesn't even warrant a serious response.

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