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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You can't seem to grasp the concept that, "No Proof of Obstacle = No Obstacle"
    I think the point you're missing, is that when the Libbos tell us how things are, we're supposed to sit back and accept it. Because they're smarter than us, or...something. The same guy that claims the United States legalized slavery for 200 years.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You can't seem to grasp the concept that, "No Proof of Obstacle = No Obstacle"
    There is endless proof that there is an obstacle, if you open your eyes. There are countless scientific studies showing it, e.g.,:

    "Racial discrimination is still prevalent in many companies' hiring practices, according to a new study released by professors from the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business (GSB) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

    The study found that job applicants with typically white first names have substantially more success than applicants with typically black first names. With all résumé qualifications being equal, one out of ten applicants in the study who had white-sounding first names was invited for a job interview, whereas only one out of fifteen applicants with black-sounding names received a similar invitation.

    "The results are having a big impact because people recognize that they're true," said Carolyn Nordstrom, president of Chicago United, a racially diverse corporate membership organization. "This study highlights the need for personal responsibility in getting rid of discrimination."

    Study shows racial*discrimination - The Chicago Maroon

    And then there is common sense, which in terribly short supply here.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There is endless proof that there is an obstacle, if you open your eyes. There are countless scientific studies showing it, e.g.,:

    "Racial discrimination is still prevalent in many companies' hiring practices, according to a new study released by professors from the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business (GSB) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

    The study found that job applicants with typically white first names have substantially more success than applicants with typically black first names. With all résumé qualifications being equal, one out of ten applicants in the study who had white-sounding first names was invited for a job interview, whereas only one out of fifteen applicants with black-sounding names received a similar invitation.

    "The results are having a big impact because people recognize that they're true," said Carolyn Nordstrom, president of Chicago United, a racially diverse corporate membership organization. "This study highlights the need for personal responsibility in getting rid of discrimination."

    Study shows racial*discrimination - The Chicago Maroon

    And then there is common sense, which in terribly short supply here.
    Another study? really? I'm sure it is of the utmost credibility and hasn't been skewed to present the appropriate outcome. Kinda like an MSNBC poll on Obama's job approval.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another study? really? I'm sure it is of the utmost credibility and hasn't been skewed to present the appropriate outcome. Kinda like an MSNBC poll on Obama's job approval.
    If you're so sure, how about some proof. Or do you think that making completely unsupported accusations counts as argument?

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There is endless proof that there is an obstacle, if you open your eyes. There are countless scientific studies showing it, e.g.,:

    "Racial discrimination is still prevalent in many companies' hiring practices, according to a new study released by professors from the University of Chicago's Graduate School of Business (GSB) and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).

    The study found that job applicants with typically white first names have substantially more success than applicants with typically black first names. With all résumé qualifications being equal, one out of ten applicants in the study who had white-sounding first names was invited for a job interview, whereas only one out of fifteen applicants with black-sounding names received a similar invitation.

    "The results are having a big impact because people recognize that they're true," said Carolyn Nordstrom, president of Chicago United, a racially diverse corporate membership organization. "This study highlights the need for personal responsibility in getting rid of discrimination."

    Study shows racial*discrimination - The Chicago Maroon

    And then there is common sense, which in terribly short supply here.
    And that is proof of what exactly?
    You spotted a trend.... but then it takes the leap of assumption to believe that the cause is racism. If one has to ASSUME, then it is not evidence of racism.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    And that is proof of what exactly?
    You spotted a trend.... but then it takes the leap of assumption to believe that the cause is racism. If one has to ASSUME, then it is not evidence of racism.
    It's proof that companies are less willing to hire people who have black-sounding names. Are you dense?

    How about a more comprehensive study by the National Academies?

    "Many racial and ethnic groups intheUnited States, including blacks, Hispanics, Asians, American Indians, and others, have historically faced severe discrimination—pervasive and open denial of civil, social, political, educational, and economic opportunities. Today, large differences in outcomes among racial and ethnic groups continue to exist in employment, income and wealth, housing, education, criminal justice, health, and other areas. Although many factors may contribute to such differences, their size and extent suggest that various forms of discriminatory treatment persist in U.S. society and serve to undercut the achievement of equal opportunity."

    Measuring Racial Discrimination

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If you're so sure, how about some proof. Or do you think that making completely unsupported accusations counts as argument?
    Read Your Words...
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If you're so sure, how about some proof. Or do you think that making completely unsupported accusations counts as argument?
    The institutionalized racism started with the NAACP, then grew into the Liberal movement of the 60's and has existed ever since. How many housing projects were there, before the do-gooders decided to start, "helping", black folks?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The institutionalized racism started with the NAACP, then grew into the Liberal movement of the 60's and has existed ever since. How many housing projects were there, before the do-gooders decided to start, "helping", black folks?
    Is that right? I didn't realize that the NAACP predated slavery.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's proof that companies are less willing to hire people who have black-sounding names. Are you dense?
    How is it proof? How can you prove that the REASON why these applicants were not called back was due to their names? If so... what does that say about the 1 in 15? Can someone be only 3.33% racist?
    If One in Ten are called back that is 10% If one in 15 are called back that is 6.66% So the difference is... 3.33%



    "Many racial and ethnic groups intheUnited States, including blacks, Hispanics, Asians, American Indians, and others, have historically faced severe discrimination—pervasive and open denial of civil, social, political, educational, and economic opportunities. Today, large differences in outcomes among racial and ethnic groups continue to exist in employment, income and wealth, housing, education, criminal justice, health, and other areas. Although many factors may contribute to such differences, their size and extent suggest that various forms of discriminatory treatment persist in U.S. society and serve to undercut the achievement of equal opportunity."

    Measuring Racial Discrimination
    I added some emphasis.....

    SUGGEST means... "We guessed to come to our conclusion because we have no proof"
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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