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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    whatever, Haymarket. you whine about corporations and the rich and defend unions and bloated government
    Yes, I defend unions and union members and the good they do and have done for America and the world.

    I defend good government as a positive benefit for society and a necessary institution for mankind. "Bloated" - perhaps you need to offer both a definition and evidence as it is a intentionally selected pejorative which means nothing by itself. Are you now an anarchist Turtle?

    As to corporations and their powers - that is the struggle of this century. The corporations versus the people. We see what side you have come down on. I will stand with the people.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes, I defend unions and union members and the good they do and have done for America and the world.

    I defend good government as a positive benefit for society and a necessary institution for mankind. "Bloated" - perhaps you need to offer both a definition and evidence as it is a intentionally selected pejorative which means nothing by itself. Are you now an anarchist Turtle?

    As to corporations and their powers - that is the struggle of this century. The corporations versus the people. We see what side you have come down on. I will stand with the people.
    You wouldn't know good government if it bit you in the ass. You love trillions in bull**** spending programs to create jobs, because government does it best right? No, businesses do it best, haymarket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You wouldn't know good government if it bit you in the ass. You love trillions in bull**** spending programs to create jobs, because government does it best right? No, businesses do it best, haymarket.
    Is there an intellectual idea anywhere in that personal attack on me?
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Is there an intellectual idea anywhere in that personal attack on me?
    Is there an intellectual idea in any of your posts in this thread. You talk about good government like you think you know it like Thomas Jefferson did. I challenge you to produce a single post of yours (from this site) that comes close to what a founder like Thomas Jefferson ever thought. I'll talk about that with you.
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    Never met Jefferson - sorry.

    I am reminded of President John F. Kennedy speaking before a gathering of over three dozen Nobel laureates in 1962 at the White House and he said it was the greatest gathering of brain power ever in the building - except when Jefferson dined alone.

    I would never dare compare myself to Jefferson. And there is little intelligence or reason for you to attempt to do so either.
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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Reconfirming the drawing yet again doesnt help your case.
    And constantly running from the truth in every thread that points out your party's devious intentions and placating of black failures doesn't help yours.

    What the Democrats have done to the American black community is social genocide.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Never met Jefferson - sorry.

    I am reminded of President John F. Kennedy speaking before a gathering of over three dozen Nobel laureates in 1962 at the White House and he said it was the greatest gathering of brain power ever in the building - except when Jefferson dined alone.

    I would never dare compare myself to Jefferson. And there is little intelligence or reason for you to attempt to do so either.
    George Washington never trusted Jefferson, and Adams had a strained relationship with him for years until both were nearing their death beds.

    The three of them would have laughed at JFK or Obama ever sitting as president.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post

    What the Democrats have done to the American black community is social genocide.
    So you're blaming Dems for black unemployment? Where's the personal responsibility you Cons talk about? Or are you just being racist and calling black people too dumb and can't think for themselves?

    Also the fact you are equating unemployment with genocide is laughable. And hyper partisans like yourself wonder why they are never taken seriously and are laughed at.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
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    Tell me: How does a "small government" conservative even suggest "soft control", or "control" period, as an answer to anything?
    When religious observance was common in the US, it had a moralizing effect. There were plenty of people who did not follow the moral code they allegedly espoused, and there were plenty who did, even though they didn't believe it. Here's why.

    For at least some of it's history, Christian preachers fairly consistently preached honesty, charity, compassion, etc. The Ten Commandments. As individuals, in private, there were, and are, and will be plenty of Christians who certainly stray from these teachings, and to put it bluntly, ****ed up. But they strove mightily not to do so publicly and that need and desire for privacy certainly did affect how much private hanky panky occurred.

    The reason for avoiding individual, public bad behavior was because of the group displeasure. At one time, if a public official had an affair or a child out of wedlock, stole money, etc., he couldn't get elected. Yes, holding him accountable was hypocritical by many, but nonetheless, it was done. As a result, government and society was more moral. And the force behind it was religious preaching with the threat (and belief) that hellfire was the reward for breaking the rules.

    As religious power waned, what was once publicly excoriated became tolerated, and eventually celebrated.

    The decline of traditional morality, the attacks on Christianity, and the rise of tyranny as a result are not coincidences and are all linked, and that a moral society doesn't need a plethora of laws to keep it in line.

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    Re: Black unemployment: Highest in 27 years

    And now you have religious right politicians from very conservative, religious districts, like Louisiana's David Vitter, getting reelected after they've been caught cheating on their wives with hookers.

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