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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If it is indeed such a delusion, and you seem to be insinuating that the music industry is replete similar raids and confiscations to that which has happened to Gibson Guitar. If that is the case, then you should have no problem just linking to the others that have been raided, with their product confiscated...


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    Umm, there is evidence that Gibson violated the law, and no evidence that any other guitar manufaturer violated the LA, so how is it "singling out" to go after the ONLY corp that evidence shows may have violated the law?
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I assume that they use the same types of woods, from largely the same sources...Is that wrong?

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    Yes

    There has been no evidence posted to support your assumption and "largely the same sources" is not the same as "the same sources"
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And *that* is the point. Ockhams argument is so dishonest, he can't admit to this clear and obvious point

    And as YOU have pointed out, there is no evidence that this has happened in this case. Ockhams delusional claims are supported only by partisanship and a dishonest refusal to admit to obvious truths
    LOL ... look, get off whatever high horse you are on, even if just a high hobby-horse.

    The opinion that they have been targeted has merit. So does the opinion that perhaps not. What is wrong with the discussion of such, rather than this continued stupid flow of very poor posts by you.

    Most would agree that the government has failed in its due process, and 6th Amendment guarantees. Some of us see that our right to our assets should be protected just as our rights to our freedom, and I believe there is likely SCOTUS precedent supporting such, but that is an OK argument as well. Why not just a fair debate over these topics, and anything else, instead of all this "he's delusional" crappola ?

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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I thought the court authorized search is what you and the others were complaining about? If not that, what???
    The Feds confiscated assets.

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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, there is evidence that Gibson violated the law, and no evidence that any other guitar manufaturer violated the LA, so how is it "singling out" to go after the ONLY corp that evidence shows may have violated the law?
    Why should the law single out just those who there is evidence are breaking the law? Why not investigate everyone, regardless if there is any evidence?

    Oh, that would be asinine, wouldn't it. Never mind.
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The Feds confiscated assets.
    while they did seize the assets and secure them, they were not confiscated
    but prove me wrong
    show us how the ownership of that property was turned over to the government
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    LOL ... look, get off whatever high horse you are on, even if just a high hobby-horse.
    Meaningless blather that, despite your obvious intent, does nothing to bolster your position

    The opinion that they have been targeted has merit.

    Without any evidence to support it, it has NO MERIT
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes
    10 char
    Please do share.


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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The Feds confiscated assets.
    And? Is search and seizure unusual in a criminal investigation?
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    Re: US agents raid Gibson Guitar over ebony

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Please do share.


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    asked and answered
    here was your question:
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I assume that they use the same types of woods, from largely the same sources...Is that wrong?

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    here was my answer:
    yes
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