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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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Oh, Good Lord, here we go again, debt went up every year thus if there was a surplus why would the debt go up? Stop being foolish, a surplus in public debt was offset by a deficit in intergovt holdings(SS and Medicare) thus causing a net debt increase and higher debt service. Making your same claims over and over again doesn't make it true
Meanwhile, you voted for Bush in 2000 after he said he was giving the surplus back to the people via tax cuts because they were "overcharged."

Why did you vote for a liar like that?
 
Clinton's second term was with total GOP Control of Congress, how did you miss that fact? Take a civics class

Ah, now we're playing the "where's the republican" game to try to attribute anything good to republicans and anything bad to democrats. Unfortunately for you, republicans opposed Clinton's tax hikes and also opposed his defense cuts, so they don't get much credit.

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WTF?? You think the unemployment number drops when people retire?? What does people retiring have to do with the unemployment numbers? When people retire, the only number that drops is the labor force.

But then, I don't really expect someone who believes Democrats conrtrolled the Senate when the 2001 recession began to understand that. :roll:

Let's look at the numbers, so instead of calling you a liar I will just tell you that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

In the first case there are 150000000 in the labor force with 14 million unemployed, that is a 9.3% unemployment rate. In the second example a million seniors dropped out of the labor force and the unemployment roles taking the labor force to 149 million and the unemployed to 13 million or 8.7 unemployment rate. I don't think you have a clue so keep digging that hold deeper.


150000000 149000000
14000000 13000000
0.093333333 0.087248322
 
Ah, now we're playing the "where's the republican" game to try to attribute anything good to republicans and anything bad to democrats. Unfortunately for you, republicans opposed Clinton's tax hikes and also opposed his defense cuts, so they don't get much credit.

Exactly as did the American people who kicked the Democrats out of office in 1994, GOP Cut taxes in 1997 but of course that didn't make Media matters news reports.
 
Meanwhile, you voted for Bush in 2000 after he said he was giving the surplus back to the people via tax cuts because they were "overcharged."

Why did you vote for a liar like that?

Because he was running against a bigger liar, Al Gore and John Kerry
 
Ah, now we're playing the "where's the republican" game to try to attribute anything good to republicans and anything bad to democrats. Unfortunately for you, republicans opposed Clinton's tax hikes and also opposed his defense cuts, so they don't get much credit.
Conservative calls that game, "Whack-a-Dem." :cool:
 
Before you call me ignorant, it might behoove you to do some homework and learn two dates:

1) When did the 2001 recession begin?

2) When did Democrats take over the Senate?

After you smack yourself on the forehead :dohI hope to get an apology from you for calling me ignorant when you're the one parading it like you just scored a touchdown with it.

The recession began in March 2001 so tell me what policy Bush had in place in March 2001 after taking office on January 21, 2001? it was an equally divided Senate at the time but more importantly what did Bush do to cause the 2001 recession?
 
Exactly as did the American people who kicked the Democrats out of office in 1994, GOP Cut taxes in 1997 but of course that didn't make Media matters news reports.

The '97 tax cuts were bipartisan, FYI. But it is ironic that you trumpet them, because it is in large part the child credit they introduced that has resulted in so many lower and middle income families not paying any FIT.
 
Let's look at the numbers, so instead of calling you a liar I will just tell you that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

In the first case there are 150000000 in the labor force with 14 million unemployed, that is a 9.3% unemployment rate. In the second example a million seniors dropped out of the labor force and the unemployment roles taking the labor force to 149 million and the unemployed to 13 million or 8.7 unemployment rate. I don't think you have a clue so keep digging that hold deeper.


150000000 149000000
14000000 13000000
0.093333333 0.087248322
Now explain why you're subtracting retirees from the unemployment number . . . ?

G'head .... I'll wait . . .
 
Now explain why you're subtracting retirees from the unemployment number . . . ?

G'head .... I'll wait . . .

Huh... maybe the same reason you subtract the deceased from the census?
 
Conservative calls that game, "Whack-a-Dem." :cool:

I am in position to do that as I spent almost 20 years in the Democrat Party but when the party left me, I still continued by conservative beliefs and they served me well.
 
Huh... maybe the same reason you subtract the deceased from the census?

I would like to forgive him but he makes too many mistakes and I would expect something a lot better from him
 
You keep talking about the housing bubble but ignoring the dot.com bubble so keep it real.
The real estate bubble has nothing to do with the dot com bubble. I thought my non-sequitur dinner made that point. How did you miss it?
 
The real estate bubble has nothing to do with the dot com bubble. I thought my non-sequitur dinner made that point. How did you miss it?

The dot.com bubble burst at the end of the Clinton term and led to the recession Bush inherited. The housing bubble burst and created the recession that Obama inherited. Your BDS is alive and well. Let me know when I can schedule that mental appointment for you.
 
The recession began in March 2001 so tell me what policy Bush had in place in March 2001 after taking office on January 21, 2001? it was an equally divided Senate at the time but more importantly what did Bush do to cause the 2001 recession?
Why don't you .... ?

a) look up the dates as I recommended so you can stop making a fool of yourself; and ...

b) apologize for projecting that others are the ignorant ones
 
Oh, My, are you really this dumb? Please stop making a fool of yourself.
Ummm, that's not an explanation for why you decreased the unemployment numbers in your example.

According to your logic, all we have to do to get rid of unemployment alltogether in America is get 14 million people to retire and then the unemployment number will be zero.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

So now explain why you're subtracting retirees from the unemployment number . . . ?

G'head .... I'll wait . . .
 
The dot.com bubble burst at the end of the Clinton term and led to the recession Bush inherited. The housing bubble burst and created the recession that Obama inherited. Your BDS is alive and well. Let me know when I can schedule that mental appointment for you.
I sure hope the forum moderator doesn't thread ban you, this is too much fun!
 
Oh, My, are you really this dumb? Please stop making a fool of yourself.

You are making the assumption that all the jobs people are retiring from will be replaced with people that are unemployed. This not always true.
 
You are making the assumption that all the jobs people are retiring from will be replaced with people that are unemployed. This not always true.

What are discouraged workers? Are they unemployed or employed?
 
The recession began in March 2001 so tell me what policy Bush had in place in March 2001 after taking office on January 21, 2001? it was an equally divided Senate at the time but more importantly what did Bush do to cause the 2001 recession?

Why don't you .... ?

a) look up the dates as I recommended so you can stop making a fool of yourself; and ...

b) apologize for projecting that others are the ignorant ones
How'ya coming with those dates, Con? What's taking you so long?
 
I am coming to one conclusion after browsing back through the 176 plus pages of posts on this thread. It is, that the opening posting laid out a fact. and that fact is that employers added NO NET JOBS in the month of August. Also as of late this supposed 'summer of recovery' is a huge flop. Nothing has recovered, and I am thinking that we never left the recession.

In all that, Demo's blame repubs, and repubs blame demo's. and on, and on, and on.....pfft!!!

But, if we never left the recession, one has to ask why is that? We have been in a Keynesian experiment since January of 2009. It has clearly failed, and no increase of the Keynes model is going to magically work.

2012 is going to be a referendum on this no matter what demo's say....For it not to be would be dishonest, and go against every 2nd term election this country has ever held. Obama is failing in an epic fashion, and one year and three months from now should he not address his failures and actually start adopting proven policies that work, he will lose.

j-mac
 
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