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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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Conservative said:
You mean these?

2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792

Or how about the employment today vs. when he took office?

2011 139323 139573 139864 139674 139779 139334 139296 139627
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Nov-08-770
Dec-08-719
Jan-09-967
total jobs lost-2456
 
pbrauer said:
Nov-08-770
Dec-08-719
Jan-09-967
total jobs lost-2456
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Employment in November 2008 was 143.9 and employment January 2009 was 142.2 that isn't 2.4 million nor is the unemployment numbers from BLS so you can stop with the distortion and diversion. I posted the Bush unemployment rate for his entire term vs. Obama's. Still waiting for you to post a side by side comparison.
 
Conservative said:
Subsidies aren't bailouts. Bailouts take money from the taxpayers and gives it to companies like AIG, Freddie, Fannie, GM/Chrysler. Tax subsidies allow companies to keep more of what they earn. Learn the difference.
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You need to learn to read. I said "cut their taxes and give them a **** ton of tax payer dollars". I'm sorry you misread and went off on something which didn't exist. That's the original statement. I used subsidies later, and now I see the error in that because you don't seem to be able to understand and it confused you. Point is, I didn't call tax cuts the giving away of tax payer money like you tried to suggest and called me a fool for. I had 2 different things in that statement. Now quit digging your hole deeper there and just move along before you hurt yourself.
 
Conservative said:
Employment in November 2008 was 143.9 and employment January 2009 was 142.2 that isn't 2.4 million nor is the unemployment numbers from BLS so you can stop with the distortion and diversion. I posted the Bush unemployment rate for his entire term vs. Obama's. Still waiting for you to post a side by side comparison.
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There is no distortion at all Conservative, except by YOU. How many people were employed at the end of October? Huh?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No, just getting it wrong. It takes about 150,000 jobs to keep the rate the same. So clearly, there was a gain of jobs in August. Just not enough to lower the unemployment rate.
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Come on, Skeik! You know that, when it comes to Perry, the only thing that matters is the number of jobs created, but when it comes to Obama the only thing that matters is the unemployment rate!! :mad:
 
pbrauer said:
There is no distortion at all Conservative, except by YOU. How many people were employed at the end of October? Huh?
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Oh, good Lord, how did Bush create those numbers with Democrats in control of the legislation and purse strings. I am still waiting for a side by side comparison that you don't want to post. Keep running from the Obama record for that is all you can do
 
AdamT said:
Come on, Skeik! You know that, when it comes to Perry, the only thing that matters is the number of jobs created, but when it comes to Obama the only thing that matters is the unemployment rate!! :mad:
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Let me know when Obama will have a net job gain and even employment equal to when he took office. Guess he really needs to get Bush out of the WH in 2011
 
Conservative said:
Let me know when Obama will have a net job gain and even employment equal to when he took office. Guess he really needs to get Bush out of the WH in 2011
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According you, net job gain doesn't matter. At least when it comes to Texas. :lol:
 
AdamT said:
According you, net job gain doesn't matter. At least when it comes to Texas. :lol:
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Net job gain matters regardless of where it is, TX has a net jobs gain and Obama has a net job loss. Suggest you learn the difference.
 
Conservative said:
Oh, good Lord, how did Bush create those numbers with Democrats in control of the legislation and purse strings. I am still waiting for a side by side comparison that you don't want to post. Keep running from the Obama record for that is all you can do
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Are you going to admit you were wrong about the jobs lost in Nov, or are you now just trying to change the subject?

Bush Numbers was because of the housing bubble that burst in 2008, that's undeniable. Credit card economy.
 
Conservative said:
Keep buying the rhetoric and ignoring reality. That will carry you far in real life. There was no surplus no matter how many times you claim there was one.
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Care to remind the forum why Bush first announced he would cut taxes?

Oh, wait, you'll lie, so I'll remind the forum...


"You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high, and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and, on their behalf, I'm here asking for a refund. " George Bush, 2.27.2001​
 
pbrauer said:
Are you going to admit you were wrong about the jobs lost in Nov, or are you now just trying to change the subject?

Bush Numbers was because of the housing bubble that burst in 2008, that's undeniable. Credit card economy.
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I posted the unemployment as well as employment numbers showing that I run from nothing. You choose to blame Bush alone for creating the problem and to judge him on the last half of 2008 while ignoring what Obama has done for 2 1/2 years. He has a low approval rating for a reason and much of it has to do with the net job losses, 25 million unemployed and underemployed Americans, declining labor force, rising misery index, increasing debt, and broken promises. Keep diverting from that and hope he runs on the anti Bush message again.
 
Ikari said:
Quick, cut their taxes and give them a **** ton of tax payer money! That will spur jobs....oh wait.
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I don't think that cuts in taxes are on the table from either side as of now, but keeping the tax rates of today, rather than an increase in taxation is. As for entitlements, I agree that they need serious cuts, and reform. And with that kind of actual common sense thinking, and the stability that it brings to the market, jobs will be created, not by government, but by those businesses that see that a liberal wrecking ball is not headed their way....Ask Gibson guitars.

j-mac
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Care to remind the forum why Bush first announced he would cut taxes?

Oh, wait, you'll lie, so I'll remind the forum...


"You see, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high, and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and, on their behalf, I'm here asking for a refund. " George Bush, 2.27.2001​
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Seems you are stuck on the Bush issue again, fully expected as you cannot defend the Obama record. I would run from it as well.
 
Conservative said:
Net job gain matters regardless of where it is, TX has a net jobs gain and Obama has a net job loss. Suggest you learn the difference.
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Texas has a net LOSS in private sector jobs since the recession began. But Texas is really good at creating gummint jobs. :thumbsup:
 
pbrauer said:
Are you going to admit you were wrong about the jobs lost in Nov, or are you now just trying to change the subject?

Bush Numbers was because of the housing bubble that burst in 2008, that's undeniable. Credit card economy.
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And what has Obama done to correct the problems you claim Bush created? Still waiting for a side by side comparison.
 
AdamT said:
Texas has a net LOSS in private sector jobs since the recession began. But Texas is really good at creating gummint jobs. :thumbsup:
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Uh, no it doesn't but sure glad you are concerned about TX more than you are concerned with your own state and the national numbers
 
AdamT said:
Texas has a net LOSS in private sector jobs since the recession began. But Texas is really good at creating gummint jobs. :thumbsup:
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Uh, no it doesn't but sure glad you are concerned about TX more than you are concerned with your own state and the national numbers
 
j-mac said:
I don't think that cuts in taxes are on the table from either side as of now, but keeping the tax rates of today, rather than an increase in taxation is. As for entitlements, I agree that they need serious cuts, and reform. And with that kind of actual common sense thinking, and the stability that it brings to the market, jobs will be created, not by government, but by those businesses that see that a liberal wrecking ball is not headed their way....Ask Gibson guitars.

j-mac
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No, I don't think so either. But people say that if we cut taxes, we get more jobs. So obviously if we cut their taxes and give them a lot of our money, we should get massive amounts of jobs.
 
pbrauer said:
Can you please tell me why the economy went into the toilet during "The Bush Years?"
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Why it is obviously whatever liberals say it is.....Anything else must be just wrong....


j-mac
 
pbrauer said:
Can you please tell me why the economy went into the toilet during "The Bush Years?"
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GDP growth during the Bush years

2000 9951.50
2001 10286.20
2002 10642.30
2003 11142.10
2004 11867.80
2005 12638.40
2006 13398.90
2007 14077.60
2008 14441.40

Please stop reading the MSM as you are looking foolish.
 
Conservative said:
And what has Obama done to correct the problems you claim Bush created? Still waiting for a side by side comparison.
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I still waiting for you to tell me how you have a robust economy when people don't have money to spend. During the Bush years people used their homes as credit cards to get the phony equity they though they had. Bush's gains were due to the housing bubble.
 
pbrauer said:
I still waiting for you to tell me how you have a robust economy when people don't have money to spend. During the Bush years people used their homes as credit cards to get the phony equity they though they had. Bush's gains were due to the housing bubble.
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People don't have money today because companies aren't hiring due to liberal economic policies as the results show. You hired Obama to fix the economy you claim was broken and he has failed. Now you want to give him four more years of failure. The results speak for themselves, keep running from them.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, the only one that makes any sense and the one that made this the greatest economic power in the world.
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Historically, when supply side economics are in place, America has done poorly... particularly when compared to a more demand oriented system. A system that benefits the people more than businesses.

Actually unions made America the greatest economic power in the world. Unions created a strong middle class which has been the engine of American business and its financial success.
 
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