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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    About as useless as asking you to think, you complain about one side .. then run around making excuses for the spending from your side .. . so you are any different how ? Bush added near 6t to our debt in 8 years .. . or about 750B a year .. . that's a bad enough record, Obama in his first three years is going to add 3.6T to our debt, or 1.2T per year .. .if he is to last 8 years .. .that means he is going to add 9.6t making our national debt over 20T dollars

    Now I'm sorry, but I thought Obama was elected to fix our problems, not make them worse. While you prefer to talk about what Bush did, I prefer to talk about what is going on now, but maybe you weak minded liberals feel that living in the past .. . you will be able to change it .
    No where have I made excuses. That is simply a projection on your part. I say quite clearly that both spend, that it is not a republican or democrat issue.

    And no Obama was not elected to fix our economy. Anyone on either side who thought that was and is misguided. No president can "FIX" our economy. They don't have the power to do anything like that. Obama was just the better choice in the election.

    And while you prefer to speak to what is now, when a republican takes office and spending continues, as it has repeatedly in the past, you'll likely be as silent as many were during the Bush years. Do you really think Conservative will be denouncing conservatives for their spending should that happen? Really?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Richard Clarke? Thanks, wasn't he in the Clinton Administration? Maybe you should read a little about Richard Clarke instead of buying what you want to believe because of your BDS

    9/11 Conspiracy Theories and the End of Richard Clarke
    He was in the Clinton AND Bush administrations. I'm quite familiar with him. Are you claiming that the declassified January 2001 memo is a fake?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again, learn the difference between the debt held by the public and intergovernmental debt. The Treasury is not lying AND there was a budget surplus.
    When you take money from SS and put it on budget you affect the public debt but as was shown there was no surplus there either, but there was a PROJECTED surplus. Still find it interesting that you are so concerned about revenue going to politicians who created the 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Just like a liberal, it is always about more revenue and not the failure of social spending that has yet to solve a social problem.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He was in the Clinton AND Bush administrations. I'm quite familiar with him. Are you claiming that the declassified January 2001 memo is a fake?
    I am claiming that conspiracy theories are part of the story that you love to promote. There are other memos from Clarke that supported the actions of Bush so it seems that it all depends on the way the wind is blowing as to which way he will respond. Guess I still wonder what 9/11 has to do with the results today? Don't you just love the unity that Obama is promoting? Maybe all os SOB's need to get on board, right?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, that excuses Bush. He did have to do anything if Clinton didn't. It's that personal responsibility thing again.
    Why booooo it's the very same reasoning you are using to excuse the debt Obama is occurring by pointing fingers back at Bush .. . So I guess it's that personal responsibility thing yet again huh ?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No where have I made excuses. That is simply a projection on your part. I say quite clearly that both spend, that it is not a republican or democrat issue.

    And no Obama was not elected to fix our economy. Anyone on either side who thought that was and is misguided. No president can "FIX" our economy. They don't have the power to do anything like that. Obama was just the better choice in the election.

    And while you prefer to speak to what is now, when a republican takes office and spending continues, as it has repeatedly in the past, you'll likely be as silent as many were during the Bush years. Do you really think Conservative will be denouncing conservatives for their spending should that happen? Really?

    Denouncing the spending in the past does what to address the spending today?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There was no surplus as the Treasury data shows so tell me was the Treasury Dept. lying? Since you are so concerned about lies, then ask the Treasury why the actual numbers don't show a surplus. Bush was reacting just like Clinton supporters are reacting to CBO projections again which didn't account for 9/11 or the Clinton recession caused by the dot.com bubble bursting.
    The surplus in social security was used to purchase treasuries, thereby shifting cash from one part of the balance sheet to the other. But make no mistake, a real surplus occurred!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am claiming that conspiracy theories are part of the story that you love to promote. There are other memos from Clarke that supported the actions of Bush so it seems that it all depends on the way the wind is blowing as to which way he will respond. Guess I still wonder what 9/11 has to do with the results today? Don't you just love the unity that Obama is promoting? Maybe all os SOB's need to get on board, right?
    There is no conspiracy theory here. There is just the fact that Bush didn't turn his attention to al Qaeda for the first eight months of his presidency. Go ahead and post up those other Clarke memos you're talking about.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Denouncing the spending in the past does what to address the spending today?
    The federal government would have had far more ammunition to combat this recession in absence of the erroneous deficit spending of the Bush administration.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    The surplus in social security was used to purchase treasuries, thereby shifting cash from one part of the balance sheet to the other. But make no mistake, a real surplus occurred!
    Then tell it to the Treasury Dept which shows debt rising every year of the Clinton years?

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