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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So Bush was lying when he said that the Clinton surplus justified his tax cuts. That's good to know.
    No more than the CBO was lying or anyone else was lying at the time, it was a projected surplus that didn't count on the Clinton recession and 9/11

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We'll never know if Gore would have prevented the attack or not although my personal belief is that he would have at least tried, just as Clinton had done 3 years earlier when he too was handed a PDB by the FBI warning him of a potential attack by Muslim extremists. That conjecture aside, I would hope most would agree that doing absolutely nothing in response to such a warning is almost a certain guarantee that the attack will not be thwarted.
    Of course we can only speculate, but there is no question that Bush was remiss in addressing the threat of al Qaeda during his first nine months. His own terrorism czar sent multiple requests, beginning in January of 2001, stating that a cabinet-level meeting was urgently needed to address the AQ threat. Bush ignored these requests for eight months. He finally responded ... several weeks before 9/11. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...rke%20memo.pdf

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No more than the CBO was lying or anyone else was lying at the time, it was a projected surplus that didn't count on the Clinton recession and 9/11
    No one was lying except the people claiming there was no surplus. People who deny the surplus are either being intentionally deceptive, or they simply don't understand the difference between the debt held by the public and intergovernmental debt.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Of course we can only speculate, but there is no question that Bush was remiss in addressing the threat of al Qaeda during his first nine months. His own terrorism czar sent multiple requests, beginning in January of 2001, stating that a cabinet-level meeting was urgently needed to address the AQ threat. Bush ignored these requests for eight months. He finally responded ... several weeks before 9/11. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/...rke%20memo.pdf
    You haven't a clue what Bush did or didn't do, just an opinion that you want to believe. What does any of this have to do with the current results today and the fact that you cannot get over your BDS?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You haven't a clue what Bush did or didn't do, just an opinion that you want to believe. What does any of this have to do with the current results today and the fact that you cannot get over your BDS?
    Of course I know what Bush didn't do. It was laid out in great detail by his own terrorism czar.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No one was lying except the people claiming there was no surplus. People who deny the surplus are either being intentionally deceptive, or they simply don't understand the difference between the debt held by the public and intergovernmental debt.
    There was no surplus as the Treasury data shows so tell me was the Treasury Dept. lying? Since you are so concerned about lies, then ask the Treasury why the actual numbers don't show a surplus. Bush was reacting just like Clinton supporters are reacting to CBO projections again which didn't account for 9/11 or the Clinton recession caused by the dot.com bubble bursting.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Bush had nine months to prevent 9/11 so you tell me what did Clinton do during his 8 years to prevent 9/11

    start you list here

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    Well, that excuses Bush. He did have to do anything if Clinton didn't. It's that personal responsibility thing again.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, you are entitled to your OPINION.

    Regarding spending, Bush and Congress spent too much but Bush didn't create 4 trillion in debt in 2 1/2 years nor did Bush have a net job loss, bail out union pensions d1squised as stimulus, have a declining labor force by driving people out of the labor market but then again Bush isn't the issue here, Obama and his results are. Those results will be on the ballot in 2012 and he has no economic plan in place to change the economic results. 16.2% unemployment and under employment is why his JAR is so low but guess what spending more money is what he is going to call for to improve the economy. Isn't that was the 2009 Stimulus was supposed to do?
    The amount doesn't matter. He did nearly double the debt. That's significant no matter how you look at it. You can't excuse him by pointing to anyone else. You either believe it is wrong for all, and condem all, or you play partisan nonsense. it is as simple as that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There was no surplus as the Treasury data shows so tell me was the Treasury Dept. lying? Since you are so concerned about lies, then ask the Treasury why the actual numbers don't show a surplus. Bush was reacting just like Clinton supporters are reacting to CBO projections again which didn't account for 9/11 or the Clinton recession caused by the dot.com bubble bursting.
    Again, learn the difference between the debt held by the public and intergovernmental debt. The Treasury is not lying AND there was a budget surplus.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Of course I know what Bush didn't do. It was laid out in great detail by his own terrorism czar.
    Richard Clarke? Thanks, wasn't he in the Clinton Administration? Maybe you should read a little about Richard Clarke instead of buying what you want to believe because of your BDS

    9/11 Conspiracy Theories and the End of Richard Clarke

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