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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nice attempt to back track, but it doesn't count. I said cut taxes and give them a bunch of tax payer money (actually I said **** ton, but same sentiment). That's what is written. Quite playing the fool more than you have to.

    BTW, what was the bailout packages to the banks, wallstreet, and some of the auto manufacturers? Were those just "tax cuts"?
    No, they were taking money from taxpayers to give to these entities.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, nor were they subsidies. I stand by my statement and it appears to be you that is backtracking, tax subsidies means paying less in taxes not getting a check from the taxpayers.
    I only used subsidiaries in the follow up to show you that I was conveying two ideas. There are lots of tax handouts, including the ones I listed in that quote there. Sorry fool, you ran your mouth without comprehending what you were running your mouth over. Be more careful in the future.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No, they were taking money from taxpayers to give to these entities.
    but....but....Conservative says there's no such thing! Those....those are just tax cuts.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    You are the king of distortions and the causation vs. correlation logical fallacy. I'm not surprised that you loved Grim's graphic; it fits perfectly with your flawed way of thinking and inability to comprehend reality.
    I posted the actual data. I wonder how you can allow Bush to be blamed for the economic conditions then with your entire causation vs correlation argument. It works both ways. The numbers are what they are. You don't like them take that up with BLS.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    but....but....Conservative says there's no such thing! Those....those are just tax cuts.
    Subsidies aren't bailouts. Bailouts take money from the taxpayers and gives it to companies like AIG, Freddie, Fannie, GM/Chrysler. Tax subsidies allow companies to keep more of what they earn. Learn the difference.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean these?

    2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
    2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792

    Or how about the employment today vs. when he took office?

    2011 139323 139573 139864 139674 139779 139334 139296 139627
    Nov-08 -770
    Dec-08 -719
    Jan-09 -967
    total jobs lost -2456

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Nov-08 -770
    Dec-08 -719
    Jan-09 -967
    total jobs lost -2456
    Employment in November 2008 was 143.9 and employment January 2009 was 142.2 that isn't 2.4 million nor is the unemployment numbers from BLS so you can stop with the distortion and diversion. I posted the Bush unemployment rate for his entire term vs. Obama's. Still waiting for you to post a side by side comparison.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Subsidies aren't bailouts. Bailouts take money from the taxpayers and gives it to companies like AIG, Freddie, Fannie, GM/Chrysler. Tax subsidies allow companies to keep more of what they earn. Learn the difference.
    You need to learn to read. I said "cut their taxes and give them a **** ton of tax payer dollars". I'm sorry you misread and went off on something which didn't exist. That's the original statement. I used subsidies later, and now I see the error in that because you don't seem to be able to understand and it confused you. Point is, I didn't call tax cuts the giving away of tax payer money like you tried to suggest and called me a fool for. I had 2 different things in that statement. Now quit digging your hole deeper there and just move along before you hurt yourself.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Employment in November 2008 was 143.9 and employment January 2009 was 142.2 that isn't 2.4 million nor is the unemployment numbers from BLS so you can stop with the distortion and diversion. I posted the Bush unemployment rate for his entire term vs. Obama's. Still waiting for you to post a side by side comparison.
    There is no distortion at all Conservative, except by YOU. How many people were employed at the end of October? Huh?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No, just getting it wrong. It takes about 150,000 jobs to keep the rate the same. So clearly, there was a gain of jobs in August. Just not enough to lower the unemployment rate.
    Come on, Skeik! You know that, when it comes to Perry, the only thing that matters is the number of jobs created, but when it comes to Obama the only thing that matters is the unemployment rate!!

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