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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Never held a leadership position I see but not surprising. It really is a waste of time dealing with you and any of the other Obama supporters. Facts just get in the way of your opinions and feelings
    What the hell do you know about facts? You said no ARRA stimulus was spent in FY2010 when the fact is, FY2010 had the most ARRA funds spent.

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    Analysis of the Stimulus and what it would do.

    http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf
    Umm, that analysis included:


    It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.


    Did you not read it or is it that you don't understand it?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What the hell do you know about facts? You said no ARRA stimulus was spent in FY2010 when the fact is, FY2010 had the most ARRA funds spent.


    Umm, that analysis included:


    It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the obvious uncertainty that comes from modeling a hypothetical package rather than the final legislation passed by the Congress. But, there is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity.


    Did you not read it or is it that you don't understand it?
    You are a true legend in your own mind as you focus on minutia that does nothing but divert from the present to the past. Keep living there and you are in for quite a disappointment in 2012. Spend billions and get net job losses, higher unemployment, declining labor force, rising misery index, and trillions added to the debt and you get the numbers we have today which is zero net job gains in August 2011. You like the obama performance, great, you are in the minority.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    A partisan view of the economy ... who benefits ... not whose the blame.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are a true legend in your own mind as you focus on minutia that does nothing but divert from the present to the past. Keep living there and you are in for quite a disappointment in 2012. Spend billions and get net job losses, higher unemployment, declining labor force, rising misery index, and trillions added to the debt and you get the numbers we have today which is zero net job gains in August 2011. You like the obama performance, great, you are in the minority.
    Translation: don't confuse me with facts.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Translation: don't confuse me with facts.
    Have yet to see you refute any facts presented but I have seen you join Sheik in distorting the past like judging Bush based upon the last half of 2008. Still waiting for that side by side comparision between the Bush and Obama results. Since you both like averages, let's see them and let the chips fall where they may

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Have yet to see you refute any facts presented but I have seen you join Sheik in distorting the past like judging Bush based upon the last half of 2008. Still waiting for that side by side comparision between the Bush and Obama results. Since you both like averages, let's see them and let the chips fall where they may
    I'm distorting the past by recounting the condition Bush left the country in? Wow, you are out there.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm distorting the past by recounting the condition Bush left the country in? Wow, you are out there.
    Bush wasn't alone and you know it. Obama and Democrats approved everything that Bush did and it seems they were more interested in regaining the WH than doing their job yet you give them a pass. Says a lot about you.

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    For those that have never been to TX but demonize everything that goes on here by looking at studies and media reports. Here is what you are missing

    pictures of texas hill country - Google Search

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    For those that have never been to TX but demonize everything that goes on here by looking at studies and media reports. Here is what you are missing

    pictures of texas hill country - Google Search
    I thought that the thread topic was" Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged"Not an infomercial for the Texas Hill country.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Have yet to see you refute any facts presented but I have seen you join Sheik in distorting the past like judging Bush based upon the last half of 2008.
    No, you've seen them ... you just pretend that never happens. Just earlier you said no ARRA funds were spent in FY2010 and that was refuted. So who knows why you now act as though none of your "facts" get refuted.

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    Still waiting for that side by side comparision between the Bush and Obama results. Since you both like averages, let's see them and let the chips fall where they may
    Stop lying. You've been shown this before too. Why do you now pretend like you haven't been shown...
    U3 Unemployment rate:

    Bush: a 3.6 point increase from 4.2% to 7.8% (86% increase)

    Obama: a 1.3 point increase from 7.8% to 9.1% (17% increase)

    Lemme guess ... you don't like those "chips?"

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