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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Don't move to TX. People in TX have a better chance of getting out of poverty due to lower taxes and greater freedoms. Guess that fact escaped you
    How on Earth do people in Texas have a better chance of getting out of poverty when Texas has one of highest poverty rates in the nation?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Texas has the 6th highest poverty rate in the nation. Deal with it. And if the poverty rate in the few cities you mentioned is below the national average, that makes the poverty rate in the rest of Texas that much higher.
    Unlike you, Sheik, I want a govt. that gives me equal opportunity not one that guarantees equal outcome because that equal outcome is at a cost, higher taxes, more regulations, and less personal freedoms. Govt.spending always comes with strings attached as is all dollars controlled by politicians. Suits you quite well doesn't it?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael H View Post
    Germany is a sneeky protectionist ... cooperation between unions, government and banks.
    Interesting, but most of that appears to be dated or speculative, as in "some elements in Germany want to...." Since the first article was written in 2009 have we seen German banks pulling capital back in country? I'd say it's just the opposite. Germany has been the main (albeit reluctant) party keeping the troubled EU economies afloat. There are some interesting points in there, though. Particularly that protectionism these days is tending to take a less direct form, such as government support for industry (like our own subsidies for green energy, or cash for clunkers). South Korea has been a master of that, helping its industrial conglomerates outperform foreign competitors.

    But I guess that begs the question: is it really protectionism for a government to lends its resources to domestic private industry? I think there has to be a distinction between government helping industry become more competitive, and government directly intervening to benefit industry because it can't compete internationally. In for the former case government is helping to improve efficiency and competitiveness while in the latter government is in effect fostering inefficiency and uncompetitiveness by shielding companies from stronger competition.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How on Earth do people in Texas have a better chance of getting out of poverty when Texas has one of highest poverty rates in the nation?
    TX has among the higest growth in the nation many legals and illegals that are counted in studies. Low taxes, lower reguations, greater growth opportunities abound in TX. Best move I ever made 19 years ago. Keep reading your reports and I will keep living reality.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Conservative claims Democrat/Liberal policies leads to poverty. Some here are pointing out cases where the highest poverty levels are in states run by Republicans/Conservatives.
    That's because you premise success on how many people govt gets out of poverty, and we don't. So what are you looking for? And do you think your comparison regarding states is fair? What factors are you looking at, besides the number of poor people? All these years of entitlement programs (on a national level) and the percentage of poor is basically unchanged.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    That's because you premise success on how many people govt gets out of poverty, and we don't.
    I think we premise success on how many people AREN'T living in poverty, period.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Shiek is doing his anti Republican rants again as usual believing that it is the government's role to provide a certain level of income to individuals instead of the freedoms to give them the opportunity to succeed. Liberals love to micromanage everyone else's life but not intrude on theirs. Notice it is always about entitlements funded by others and never personal responsibility.
    Mind telling the forum what entitlements come from the mayoral level?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think we premise success on how many people AREN'T living in poverty, period.
    Where does personal responsibility rest in your world?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Unlike you, Sheik, I want a govt. that gives me equal opportunity not one that guarantees equal outcome because that equal outcome is at a cost, higher taxes, more regulations, and less personal freedoms. Govt.spending always comes with strings attached as is all dollars controlled by politicians. Suits you quite well doesn't it?
    And that has led Texas to rank 6th highest in poverty.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Mind telling the forum what entitlements come from the mayoral level?
    Do mayors govern states? You raised the issue of state poverty. As for mayors do they control a budget? Do they assure the safety of their citizens? Do they manage infrastructure? Mayors are closer to the problem than the governors and thus have more of a role in their cities than the Governors do in their city.

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