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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Perhaps whatever this company develops and presents to the marketplace will eventually become self-sustaining. Who knows.
    nobody, and certainly not the bureaucrat who decided to take my money and force me to invest through my government in it. if this company wants investors, let them get them themselves rather than getting government to take care of their business for them.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    of course no one hired...and they wont hire until after election, its all part of the plan to get a far right corporate/rich friendly republican elected...
    Right after the election no matter if a GOP or Obama wins ...they will start hiring

    Best way to win an election...create a crisis, demoralize the people

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    of course no one hired...and they wont hire until after election, its all part of the plan to get a far right corporate/rich friendly republican elected...
    Right after the election no matter if a GOP or Obama wins ...they will start hiring

    Best way to win an election...create a crisis, demoralize the people
    Good Lord, Man, Obama had total control of the Congress for two years yet you ignore the results.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now you can continue to buy the rhetoric and believe what you want but the facts are there for you to see yet you choose not to see. If someone spends a trillion dollars you would expect some economic growth and job creation, wouldn't you? That was short term and didn't do what it was supposed to do which was motivate the private sector to expand, grow, and hire.
    But you're the one who started out arguing that billions of dollars in stimulus funds have been "allocated" (I stop short of saying "spent" because not even Recovery.gov indicates that all federal contracts, grants and loans have been spent yet) then echo the President's humbling remarks that "maybe shovel ready wasn't as shovel ready as we thought" (or words to that affect) and yet you discount exactly who received that money and how it was utilized. Even the President and his economic team failed to acknowledge that maybe alot more of those stimulus dollars went to agencies like TEES whose primary mission is R&D which don't produce immediate results. The same can be said of urban R&D project that take time to develop. I say take the time to get all the facts before jumping to conclusions as to the success or failure of an initiative.

    This country lost millions of construction and manufacturing jobs over a long period of time, and we have been relying heavily on the financial services sector to sustain us for well over 30 years. It's going to take time to regain those manufacturing jobs. R&D as well as expediting the pattent process can help shift things back to manufacturing and make this a nation of domestic producers again. So, in my view as long as a R&D company in TX, NY, CA or wherever are able to partner with local, state and federal government to put their creativity into viable goods and services (mostly goods), then I can get behind that. It can only help bring back balance in domestic imports/exports. And I find that a good thing...a step in the right direction. But it's going to take time.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    But you're the one who started out arguing that billions of dollars in stimulus funds have been "allocated" (I stop short of saying "spent" because not even Recovery.gov indicates that all federal contracts, grants and loans have been spent yet) then echo the President's humbling remarks that "maybe shovel ready wasn't as shovel ready as we thought" (or words to that affect) and yet you discount exact who received that money and how it was utilized. Even the President and his economic team failed to acknowledge that maybe alot more of those stimulus dollars went to agencies like TEES whose primary mission is R&D which don't produce immediate results. The same can be said of urban R&D project that take time to develop. I say take the time to get all the facts before jumping to conclusions as to the success or failure of an initiative.

    This country lost millions of construction and manufacturing jobs over a long period of time, and we have been relying heavily on the financial services sector to sustain us for well over 30 years. It's going to take time to regain those manufacturing jobs. R&D as well as expediting the pattent process can help shift things back to manufacturing and make this a nation of domestic producers again. So, in my view as long as a R&D company in TX, NY, CA or wherever are able to partner with local, state and federal government to put their creativity into viable goods and services (mostly goods), then I can get behind that. It can only help bring back balance in domestic imports/exports. And I find that a good thing...a step in the right direction. But it's going to take time.
    Stimulus by definition is defined as a short term program and designed to stimulate economic activity and it is much easier spending money immediately and getting results than other programs such as tax cuts which take longer to truly benefit the consumers. Why aren't you asking why a stimulus program signed in February 2009 hasn't all been spent? That stimulus program was a total disaster as evidenced by the results. You don't have targeted tax cuts that try to stimulate a personal activity like cash for clunkers or targeted tax cuts to first time home buyers. Those kind of programs have any benefits offset by debt..

    Please learn the 4 components of GDP and what percentage each contributes to the GDP before making statements like relying on the financial services sector to sustain us for well over 30 years. Everything you seem to believe is govt. being the answer and that just isn't the case. I posted the GDP growth which you have ignored to this point and the Obama results. the country isn't creating jobs now because of consumer confidence being so low and fear by the business community of this Administration and that is reality

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Because, as President, everything is short term.
    Then how did we ever build the Federal highway system or the Hoover dam. Only a President who cares more about himself than the nation would think only short term.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Why would anyone here be surprised, Dear Leaders's policies have created more jobs oversea's than here, just ask his job Czar Jeffery Imelt who's own company GE is closing a plant in Milwaukee that has been there 100 years to move to China, and this guys our jobs czar? Are kiddin me...... Pathetic!

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I obviously can't tell much just from the summery in the article, but I can't say I agree. For example, Godlessness is listed as a factor: Britain was more Godless during the enlightenment, at the apex of its empire, than any other time. People always make these narratives as a way to support whatever current political position they favor. I can give you much better books if you're interested in patterns in history.
    The"Godless" thing is so unimportant in the big picture that its not worth mentioning. The debt and people's dependency on government programs is. The kind of controversies we see in the American media, such as a candidate talking of Elvis Presley, and then that making the news, is demonstrative of how a once great nation has trivialized itself. That was the entire point.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Why would anyone here be surprised, Dear Leaders's policies have created more jobs oversea's than here, just ask his job Czar Jeffery Imelt who's own company GE is closing a plant in Milwaukee that has been there 100 years to move to China, and this guys our jobs czar? Are kiddin me...... Pathetic!
    In the liberal world rhetoric always trumps substance. Obama with the help of a teleprompter telling him what to say and supporters buying the rhetoric but never looking at the results. Look at today's liberals who are running as fast as they can from the Obama results and are doing everything possible to divert from those results? Isn't it amazing how the last 8 months with the GOP on control of ONE part of Govt. are now responsible for the terrible results the first two years of the Obama Administration when Obama and Democrats controlled the entire govt. in overwhelming numbers and accomplished very little. Again as most liberals want to ignore, fiscal year of the U.S. Runs from October to September. GOP control of the House began in the second qtr of fiscal year 2011.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The"Godless" thing is so unimportant in the big picture that its not worth mentioning. The debt and people's dependency on government programs is. The kind of controversies we see in the American media, such as a candidate talking of Elvis Presley, and then that making the news, is demonstrative of how a once great nation has trivialized itself. That was the entire point.
    Or a President that quotes Ronald Reagan as an example yet never does anything that Reagan actually did thus having economic results the exact opposite of Reagan who had 17 million jobs created during his Administration thus a huge net job gain not a net job loss of Obama.

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