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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Those aren't my numbers, those are bls numbers and show the net private sector job losses since Obama took office in January 2009. If you spend a trillion dollars shouldn't you generate better results? Let me know when he gets back to the same number he inherited
    You like to put so much emphasis on state's rights and your state's ability to create jobs. Let's see just what federal Stimulus funds have done in your own backyard in the great state of Texas. From Recovery.gov (for Texas):

    No. Contracts awards: 2,609
    Total Contract funds awards: $2.59B
    No. Jobs Reported: 2,324

    No. Grants awards: 13, 247
    Total Contract funds awards: $14.32B
    No. Jobs Reported: 42,398

    No. Loans awards: 60
    Total Contract funds awards: $1.99M
    No. Jobs Reported: 737

    Total federal funds awards: $17.1B
    Total No. Jobs Reported: 45,459

    So, for $17B in federal Stimulus dollars awarded to the great state of Texas, your state could only manage to "save or create" 45,459 jobs?

    Wanna compare other states? Just go to Recovery.gov and click on your state and compare figures.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Given that, how do you explain the market being up under Obama?

    DJIA: +36%
    NASDAQ: +63%
    S&P500: +38%

    Seems to me the market had a lot of confidence in Obama's policies until the GOP proved they were serious about preventing Obama from doing anything to improve the economy.
    Well recently that doesn't hold up, and that translates into no net new jobs since Obama came along.
    Dow

    11,240.26

    -253.31

    -2.20%

    Nasdaq

    2,480.33

    -65.71

    -2.58%

    S&P 500

    1,173.97

    -30.45

    -2.53%

    10 Yr Bond(%)

    1.9960%

    -0.15

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You like to put so much emphasis on state's rights and your state's ability to create jobs. Let's see just what federal Stimulus funds have done in your own backyard in the great state of Texas. From Recovery.gov (for Texas):

    No. Contracts awards: 2,609
    Total Contract funds awards: $2.59B
    No. Jobs Reported: 2,324

    No. Grants awards: 13, 247
    Total Contract funds awards: $14.32B
    No. Jobs Reported: 42,398

    No. Loans awards: 60
    Total Contract funds awards: $1.99M
    No. Jobs Reported: 737

    Total federal funds awards: $17.1B
    Total No. Jobs Reported: 45,459

    So, for $17B in federal Stimulus dollars awarded to the great state of Texas, your state could only manage to "save or create" 45,459 jobs?

    Wanna compare other states? Just go to Recovery.gov and click on your state and compare figures.
    Wasn't that the purpose of the stimulus? Trouble is not enough of it went to those so called "shovel" ready jobs. Since TX has created most of the jobs over the past decade, 45k isn't a lot. The Stimulus saved nothing in this state so not sure what your point is? Stimulus 830 billion dollars and 17 billion of it went to TX, wow, thank you, Obama!

    By the way, the cost per job is 376,000. Great use of taxpayer dollars.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    n

    According to an old study done by Alexander Tytler, an 18th century Scottish thinker, the average age of the world’s great civilizations is about 200 years. They go, he said, “from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, and from dependence back into bondage.”

    And John Glubb, a British historian and soldier, published "The Fate of Nations," his own analysis of the decline syndrome. He gave a slightly longer lifespan – 250 years – but laid out a life cycle similar to the one portrayed by Tytler, ending with an age of decadence brought on by “selfishness, love of money, and the loss of a sense of duty,” and marked by “defensiveness, pessimism, materialism, frivolity, an influx of foreigners, the welfare state, and the weakening of religion.”

    More at America Is Not The Titantic | FoxNews.com
    I obviously can't tell much just from the summery in the article, but I can't say I agree. For example, Godlessness is listed as a factor: Britain was more Godless during the enlightenment, at the apex of its empire, than any other time. People always make these narratives as a way to support whatever current political position they favor. I can give you much better books if you're interested in patterns in history.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Well recently that doesn't hold up, and that translates into no net new jobs since Obama came along.
    Dow

    11,240.26

    -253.31

    -2.20%

    Nasdaq

    2,480.33

    -65.71

    -2.58%

    S&P 500

    1,173.97

    -30.45

    -2.53%

    10 Yr Bond(%)

    1.9960%

    -0.15
    But that's just one day. Overall, under Obama, the DJIA is up 36%, NASDAQ is up 63%, and the S&P500 is up 38%. Since you acknowledge the president's policies affect the stock market, I assume you credit those market gains, at least in part, to Obama's polices. I can't imagine you only attribute market losses to the president but not market gains.

    Not to mention, how do you suppose that reflects on Bush? On his watch, the Dow dropped 25%, NASDAQ dropped 48%, and the S&P500 dropped 40%.
    Last edited by Sheik Yerbuti; 09-03-11 at 12:57 AM.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wasn't that the purpose of the stimulus? Trouble is not enough of it went to those so called "shovel" ready jobs. Since TX has created most of the jobs over the past decade, 45k isn't a lot. The Stimulus saved nothing in this state so not sure what your point is? Stimulus 830 billion dollars and 17 billion of it went to TX, wow, thank you, Obama!

    By the way, the cost per job is 376,000. Great use of taxpayer dollars.
    So now you're calling yourself a liar? You've been saying each job cost $228,000. No more money has been spent, the number of jobs saved/created has not changed ... you just feel like changing the number?

    I suppose, why not, eh? Afterall, everyone here earlier today saw you making up all sorts of numbers.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I obviously can't tell much just from the summery in the article, but I can't say I agree. For example, Godlessness is listed as a factor: Britain was more Godless during the enlightenment, at the apex of its empire, than any other time
    this is way off base. At the apex of the British Empire (19th century realm) there was a series of massive religious movements that (among other things) helped spawn the apex of the British Empire, and led the Empire to then become the first major world civilization to give up and seek to stamp out slavery. The British godlessness of today far surpasses any previous period - and it's growth has coincided with their decline.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    But that's just one day. Overall, under Obama, the [COLOR=#0000ff]DJIA is up 36%, NASDAQ is up 63%, and the S&P500 is up 38%.
    yup. it's nice to pick up right before we bottom out.

    However, Obama isn't held responsible for the initial market crash and recession. he's held responsible for the utter failure of our economy to recover.


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yup. it's nice to pick up right before we bottom out.

    However, Obama isn't held responsible for the initial market crash and recession. he's held responsible for the utter failure of our economy to recover.

    Well either Obama's policies affect the market or they don't. One cannot rationally posit that the only time the president's policies affect the market is when the market is dropping. It makes no sense at all to say the market is dropping because of his policies ... and, oh yeah, by the way, the huge market increases since his stimulus plan are unrelated to Obama's policies.

    Councilman was suggesting the recent market loses are due to Obama's policies ... then what does he think about the market being up 36% to 63%, depending on the index?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    this is way off base. At the apex of the British Empire (19th century realm) there was a series of massive religious movements that (among other things) helped spawn the apex of the British Empire, and led the Empire to then become the first major world civilization to give up and seek to stamp out slavery. The British godlessness of today far surpasses any previous period - and it's growth has coincided with their decline.
    If you look at when the empire really started, in the 1700's, Enlightenment thought was raging across England. Gibbons even went so far as to attribute the decline of the Roman Empire to being too Christian, as opposed to the more humanistic british empire. While there were religious movements, they weren't as severe as the puritan movements in the 1600s had been. I'd say they were more religous before Empire, and during Empire they were largely humanistic in their government, even if they were still religious as people and are still technically a quasi-theocracy.
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