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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Now con, there's an amazing concept I'm going to explain to you. When you make a claim about facts, you back up the claim with a link to facts. Otherwise, I have no idea whether you're making things up or not. I at least have linked to sources for my claims. If you look at the graph I posted, the peak job loss for 81-82 was about 3%, vs over 6% in this one. We're in a much deeper hole, here. Or is there another metric you deem more indicative of how bad a recession was?

    Personal anecdotes have no place in a dispute about facts.
    Aw, gee, you would do that for me? Thanks so much but I prefer the non partisan BLS.gov, BEA.gov, U.S. Treasury sites. Suggest you better start learning about those sites if you are going to try and be credible which it doesn't appear that you are.

    Were you working during the 81-82 recession?

    BLS data so your chart is absolutely wrong

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    1981 7.5 7.4 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.2 7.4 7.6 7.9 8.3 8.5
    1982 8.6 8.9 9.0 9.3 9.4 9.6 9.8 9.8 10.1 10.4 10.8 10.8
    1983 10.4 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.1 9.4 9.5 9.2 8.8 8.5 8.3
    1984 8.0 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.3 7.4 7.2 7.3

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I refuse to believe your numbers until you link to a source for your numbers. I'm going to say employment was a bazillion jobs. Prove me wrong. Also, like I said, the current drop is due to GOP backed spending cuts.
    BLS.gov, Home, employment, top picks and pick your chart

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Obama ran on saving jobs and preventing companies from offshoring. What has he done to do that?
    He saved/created 3.5 million jobs.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If you're going to vote for a Republican, you will be voting for the exact same economic playbook Bush worked from. So yeah, you will be voting for Bush in 2012.
    Yep, 9.9 trillion GDP to 14.4 trillion GDP in 8 years. I can live with that

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    He saved/created 3.5 million jobs.
    He missed 25 million unemployed and under employed and has a net job loss

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Aw, gee, you would do that for me? Thanks so much but I prefer the non partisan BLS.gov, BEA.gov, U.S. Treasury sites. Suggest you better start learning about those sites if you are going to try and be credible which it doesn't appear that you are.
    Again, LINK TO WHERE YOU GET YOUR DATA.

    Were you working during the 81-82 recession?
    Personal anecdotes are irrelevent.

    BLS data so your chart is absolutely wrong

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    1981 7.5 7.4 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.2 7.4 7.6 7.9 8.3 8.5
    1982 8.6 8.9 9.0 9.3 9.4 9.6 9.8 9.8 10.1 10.4 10.8 10.8
    1983 10.4 10.4 10.3 10.2 10.1 10.1 9.4 9.5 9.2 8.8 8.5 8.3
    1984 8.0 7.8 7.8 7.7 7.4 7.2 7.5 7.5 7.3 7.4 7.2 7.3
    Prove it's BLS data. I think you're making numbers up.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    BLS.gov, Home, employment, top picks and pick your chart
    Not how it works. I think you're lying and making up numbers, it's up to you to prove otherwise. Besides, there's no context what your latest chart is referring to. Is that 8.4 increase in latin pop stars?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Put the averages side by side, Sheik, and then ask the 25+ million unemployed and under employed, or the 16.7% black unemployed if they care about the percentage change between Bush and Obama?

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
    2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
    2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
    2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
    2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
    2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
    2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
    2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 4.9 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.8 7.3
    2009 7.8 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.7 9.8 10.1 9.9 9.9
    2010 9.7 9.7 9.7 9.8 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.4
    2011 9.0 8.9 8.8 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.1 9.1
    Can you break this out by government jobs and private sector jobs?
    One of the reasons the jobs report is so bad is because state and local governments are shedding jobs.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Again, LINK TO WHERE YOU GET YOUR DATA.


    Personal anecdotes are irrelevent.



    Prove it's BLS data. I think you're making numbers up.
    Trolling doesn't advance your cause. Someone that wasn't involved in the economy of the 80's has no business claiming to be an expert on the 80's simply using charts. Educate yourself

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Can you break this out by government jobs and private sector jobs?
    One of the reasons the jobs report is so bad is because state and local governments are shedding jobs.
    Yes

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