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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Number of people employed in February 2009: 140,105,000

    Number of people employed in August 2011: 140,335,000

    140,335,000{now} - 140,105,000{then} = + 230,000

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    doesn't the job seeker number increase every year? I think if you add in those entering the job market you'd come out in the negative.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    [QUOTE=Conservative;1059792441]
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Then why do you claim Obama's results gave us 3 million additionally underemployed since you have to start counting from February 1st, 2009, to reach? Seems to me you are attributing job loses to him that even you don't belong to him.[/QUOTE

    Is Obama responsible for the 2011 results or do you want to blame someone else for those as well, probably Bush?
    Here's a novel idea: instead of just pointing to numbers and saying, "SEE!!", why don't you actually think about what should be attributed to Obama and what shouldn't? For example, is it Obama's fault that in 2004 - 2007, people paid way too much for housing, which has resulted in millions of mortgages being under water? If not, is it Obama's fault that the residential construction industry is still depressed, putting all of those construction and real estate people out of work? Is it Obama's fault that Greece is close to defaulting on its debt, causing our stock market to drop?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Here's a novel idea: instead of just pointing to numbers and saying, "SEE!!", why don't you actually think about what should be attributed to Obama and what shouldn't? For example, is it Obama's fault that in 2004 - 2007, people paid way too much for housing, which has resulted in millions of mortgages being under water? If not, is it Obama's fault that the residential construction industry is still depressed, putting all of those construction and real estate people out of work? Is it Obama's fault that Greece is close to defaulting on its debt, causing our stock market to drop?

    Maybe Obama is in over his head just like his resume showed? Instead of buying the rhetoric next time check the resume

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Are the 2011 results his fault? Seems that the credit problem was also ignored during the 2008 recessiion but Bush was still responsible for the results. Good leaders accept responsibility for what they inherited and solve the problem. Obama never accepts responsibility for anything.
    Actually the results for the private sector are in the positive territory, I admit they could be much better. Many of the job loses are in the public sector where state and local governments have no money. Texas is one of them.


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Here we have a month to month gains and losses in the public sector.

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2008 9 45 15 1 7 39 34 50 0 -18 -15 17
    2009 21 -5 -9 113 -60 -64 -13 -16 -23 29 -21 -28
    2010 3 -14 48 48 410 -257 -142 -169 -138 28 -35 -15
    2011 -26 -26 -25 -24 -46 -55 -71 -17


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Here we have a month to month gains and losses in the public sector.

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
    2008 9 45 15 1 7 39 34 50 0 -18 -15 17
    2009 21 -5 -9 113 -60 -64 -13 -16 -23 29 -21 -28
    2010 3 -14 48 48 410 -257 -142 -169 -138 28 -35 -15
    2011 -26 -26 -25 -24 -46 -55 -71 -17
    As has been pointed out there is a net job loss no matter how you spin it, guess that is the liberal compassion that isn't worried about the 16.2% U-6 that includes 25+ million unemployed and underemployed Americans TODAY, 2011. Think that 25 million is all public sector jobs?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post


    Maybe Obama is in over his head just like his resume showed? Instead of buying the rhetoric next time check the resume
    How about actually answering the question instead of falling back on wingnut talking points?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As has been pointed out there is a net job loss no matter how you spin it, guess that is the liberal compassion that isn't worried about the 16.2% U-6 that includes 25+ million unemployed and underemployed Americans TODAY, 2011. Think that 25 million is all public sector jobs?
    It isn't compassionate to complain endlessly about the situation without offering a realistic alternative that would improve things. I mean do you REALLY believe that reducing regulations by 2% will bring the economy around?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    How about actually answering the question instead of falling back on wingnut talking points?
    What question? All your questions have been answered but you don't like the answers so you ignore them. Obama campaigned for the job from the U.S. Senate and now claims he didn't know how bad things were. Maybe if he had campaigned less and actually did the job he was paid to do he would have had a better understanding of what he was taking on. Fact, his resume showed NO leadership or executive experience and thus is in over his head.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It isn't compassionate to complain endlessly about the situation without offering a realistic alternative that would improve things. I mean do you REALLY believe that reducing regulations by 2% will bring the economy around?
    that alternative has been offered but you continue to support Obama rhetoric. I posted an article on govt. regulatoins and their costs. I have posted the consumer confidence and the right track/wrong track poll numbers and you ignored them all. So nothing I post is going to change your mind. You deserve Barack Obama, we don't

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