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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Then why did you bring up control of the Senate and blame Bush for the recession that started in March 2001? I know that the dotcom bubble bursting caused the 2001 recession that was compounded by 9/11 but why the 2001 recession is even an issue today is your typical liberal diversion from the disaster that you helped put into the WH. You voted for Obama now accept responsibility for that poor choice.
    He only addressed it because YOU were trying to pin it on the Democrats. You can't make this sh*t up!

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Because we lost 8 million jobs during Bush's Great Recession; we lost 12 million to underemployment.

    Overcoming that ain't a cakewalk.
    With a Democrat Congress which you obviously want to ignore and the fact that there is a net job loss today 2 1/2 years later and 25 million unemployed or under employed 16.2%. It only cost trillions for those results.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Stop lying, Con. I never said the Congress caused the recession. I asked jmac why he was only looking at a 3 month window when Republicans controlled the Senate, when in fact, they had controlled it for more than 6 years by that point.

    When do your lies and insults stop?
    did you or did you not say:

    The 2001 recession began in March while Republicans controlled the Senate and Democrats didn't take control of the Senate until June, three months later.
    What else happened in September of 2001 that might have had an impact on the recession that Bush was starting to address which he inherited?

    Hmmmmm....Let's think real hard now.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He only addressed it because YOU were trying to pin it on the Democrats. You can't make this sh*t up!
    What happened in 2001 is irrelevant today and just another diversion from the Obama record today.The fact remains Congress and the President are responsible for the economy. Clinton had a Republican controlled Congress and Bush had a Democrat controlled Congress. Blaming Bush or Clinton alone serves no purpose nor does it address the Obama record today

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    We had a decent economy the first part of 2010 and that economy has been dropping since, why? Stop blaming everyone else and accept responsibility for the failure of liberalism and Obama
    The stimulus bill was the main reason we were doing better in the first part of 2010 relative to how we're doing now, though unemployment was obviously still a big problem then. Now that the stimulus is winding down, and the EU debt crisis is worsening ... *miracle!* ... the economy is slipping backwards.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What happened in 2001 is irrelevant today and just another diversion from the Obama record today.The fact remains Congress and the President are responsible for the economy. Clinton had a Republican controlled Congress and Bush had a Democrat controlled Congress. Blaming Bush or Clinton alone serves no purpose nor does it address the Obama record today
    Why did you bring it up if you think it's irrelevant?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The stimulus bill was the main reason we were doing better in the first part of 2010 relative to how we're doing now, though unemployment was obviously still a big problem then. Now that the stimulus is winding down, and the EU debt crisis is worsening ... *miracle!* ... the economy is slipping backwards.
    Don't you think spending a trillion dollars shouldn't generate positive results? The problem is like all stimulus programs they are short term and nothing Obama has done has promoted long term growth. The consumer and business have no confidence in this President and aren't going to spend money or hire people until Obama loses his job.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    Arghhhhhh! How frustrating...YOU laid out this three month period, so now just answer the damned question will you?

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    I posit your frustration is self-inflicted based on your own confusion.

    Case in point, I did not lay out any three month period. Conservative did. Pbrauer asked if he claims Bush inherited a recession and he said yes, but then pointed out how Bush started with a Democrat-led Senate in January of 2001.

    All I did was highlight his ignorance for claiming Democrats controlled the Senate when in fact, it was Republicans who controlled it. So whatever he was insinuating Democrats were to blame for, is actually upon Republicans. I never blamed the Republican-led Senate for the recession.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Don't you think spending a trillion dollars shouldn't generate positive results? The problem is like all stimulus programs they are short term and nothing Obama has done has promoted long term growth. The consumer and business have no confidence in this President and aren't going to spend money or hire people until Obama loses his job.
    The stimulus did generate positive results, as you just acknowledged. But it was too small to generate sufficient momentum. The recession -- big as it was -- was caused by a short-term real estate bubble. It wasn't caused by any long-term flaw that needs to be addressed right away.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Then why did you bring up control of the Senate ...
    Stop the **** lying already, Con. Enough already.

    YOU brought up control of the Senate, no me....

    pbrauer: "Aren't you the one that claims that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton?"

    Conservative: "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?"

    Sheik Yerbuti:
    "WTF?? Are you saying the 2001 recession began while Democrats controlled the Senate? Face reality, Con .... the 2001 recession began while Republicans controlled the Senate, the House, and the executive branch."

    Conservative: "Really? So Daschle stole the title of Senate Majority Leader in 2001? Wow, your ignorance has no bounds."

    Seriously Con, can you post without lying and without insulting others?

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