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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Hmm, lesee ... On one hand you say "we haven't been told the truth" in regard to those numbers; but on the other hand, you call those numbers, "factual."

    Maybe it's just me but I don't see how both of your positions can be true?

    Which one do you stand by?
    It is a fact that No jobs have been created in the month of August. The stats that are obvious lies, are in the myriad of numbers thrown out there to confuse, twist, and confound. So just cut the crap will you?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What does that have to do with Conservative's bogus claim (the one for which he called me ignorant)?

    Conservative: "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?"
    And you said:

    The 2001 recession began in March while Republicans controlled the Senate...
    So just tell me what policies that the repubs were in control of the senate for that three month period caused the recession some 8 years later. Otherwise you are just being dishonest, and trolling. And I will start reporting it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    It is a fact that No jobs have been created in the month of August. The stats that are obvious lies, are in the myriad of numbers thrown out there to confuse, twist, and confound. So just cut the crap will you?

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    How do you know no jobs were created if the stats are "obvious lies" since it's the stats which determine if jobs were created or not?

    I posit the one dispensing crap is the one talking out of both sides of his mouth, saying both that the numbers are lies, but yet factual at the same time.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Nothing you have posted signifies "failure" by any stretch of the imagination. It is your analysis of the situation that leads you to believe such notions. Why do you believe unemployment would be lower if the government stood back and did nothing?
    I wasn't aware that I had so much power....Government being less involved in trying to control the affairs of business have always lead to increased prosperity.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How do you know no jobs were created if the stats are "obvious lies" since it's the stats which determine if jobs were created or not?

    I posit the one dispensing crap is the one talking out of both sides of his mouth, saying both that the numbers are lies, but yet factual at the same time.
    Do you understand the thread topic. Do you know what NET means?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wasn't aware that I had so much power....Government being less involved in trying to control the affairs of business have always lead to increased prosperity.

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    Sounds like an heroic assumption to me. Such a policy (deregulation of the financial system) allowed businesses to conduct fraud on such a large scale, it required trillions of dollars in global bailouts to prevent a collapse. Not something to hang your hat on!
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And you said:

    So just tell me what policies that the repubs were in control of the senate for that three month period caused the recession some 8 years later. Otherwise you are just being dishonest, and trolling.
    You need to re-read those posts. This time, read them with the understanding that Con said nothing about the recession 8 years later. It was in regard to the recession in 2001, not the one in 2008-2009.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    And you said:

    And I will start reporting it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wasn't aware that I had so much power....Government being less involved in trying to control the affairs of business have always lead to increased prosperity.

    j-mac

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Do you understand the thread topic. Do you know what NET means?

    Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged
    Yes, as in it takes a net gain of about 150,000 jobs per month just to keep the unemployment level. Exactly what part of that don't you understand?

    Oh wait, you don't even know which party controlled the Senate when the 2001 recession started. What am I thinking asking you for facts?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    So, Con? No apology for calling others ignorant for pointing out your mistakes?


    pbrauer: "Aren't you the one that claims that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton?"

    Conservative: "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?"

    Sheik Yerbuti: "WTF?? Are you saying the 2001 recession began while Democrats controlled the Senate? Face reality, Con .... the 2001 recession began while Republicans controlled the Senate, the House, and the executive branch."

    Conservative: "Really? So Daschle stole the title of Senate Majority Leader in 2001? Wow, your ignorance has no bounds."

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