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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Whoaaaa ... so it's a "fact" again? 'Cause when you responded to me pointing out that there had to be a net gan of jobs just to keep the unemployment rate level, you said you were "questioning" those very numbs you now call "fact."


    Well, I don't know about you, but I am starting to question all these numbers from different sources. They seem way too easily manipulated to fit arguments. You know what British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli in the 1800s said right? "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    I don't think any of us have been told the real truth for quite a while now.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    The stimulus should have been twice what it was. The stimulus should have been more on infrastructure, rebuilding bridges upgrading schools. I could go on but Iím sure you get the message. I eagerly await you talking points in rebuttal.
    No talking points friend. Just common sense. And that dictates that when something fails you don't try and double what failed, that would be the definition of insanity.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I stand by my postings.

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    As lies? Damned lies? or statisitics?

    Just asking.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No talking points friend. Just common sense. And that dictates that when something fails you don't try and double what failed, that would be the definition of insanity.

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    So, it is never possible to do too little? taht is done in a larger amount the effect would be better? This is not possible?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As lies? Damned lies? or statisitics?

    Just asking.
    Boo, it is what it is, live with it! The Obama record and poll numbers are there for all to see. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away nor will it get better. Consumer and business confidence in this Administration has been lost and that doesn't bode well for the future for Obama and his supporters.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    pbrauer: "Aren't you the one that claims that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton?"

    Conservative: "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?"

    Sheik Yerbuti: "WTF?? Are you saying the 2001 recession began while Democrats controlled the Senate? Face reality, Con .... the 2001 recession began while Republicans controlled the Senate, the House, and the executive branch."

    Conservative: "Really? So Daschle stole the title of Senate Majority Leader in 2001? Wow, your ignorance has no bounds."
    Ok, since you flat out refuse to look up the dates to prove which of us is the "ignorant" one here, I'll do it for you ...
    • 2001 Recession: The NBER's Business Cycle Dating Committee has determined that a peak in business activity occurred in the U.S. economy in March 2001
    • 107th Congress (2001-2003): Majority Party (Jan 20-June 6, 2001): Republican (50 seats); Majority Party (June 6, 2001-November 12, 2002 --): Democrat (50 seats)


    The 2001 recession began in March while Republicans controlled the Senate and Democrats didn't take control of the Senate until June, three months later.

    Don't you ever get tired of being schooled by a Liberal? I'm embarrassed for you.

    Now let's see if you're man enough to apologize for calling others ignorant when you're the one who was wrong.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    I stand by my postings.

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    Hmm, lesee ... On one hand you say "we haven't been told the truth" in regard to those numbers; but on the other hand, you call those numbers, "factual."

    Maybe it's just me but I don't see how both of your positions can be true?

    Which one do you stand by?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    [COLOR="#0000FF"]The 2001 recession began in March while Republicans controlled the Senate and Democrats didn't take control of the Senate until June, three months later.
    Could you lay out for us what it was in that three month window, that Repubs rammed through that tanked the economy some 8 years later?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No talking points friend. Just common sense. And that dictates that when something fails you don't try and double what failed, that would be the definition of insanity.

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    Nothing you have posted signifies "failure" by any stretch of the imagination. It is your analysis of the situation that leads you to believe such notions. Why do you believe unemployment would be lower if the government stood back and did nothing?
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    Could you lay out for us what it was in that three month window, that Repubs rammed through that tanked the economy some 8 years later?

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    What does that have to do with Conservative's bogus claim (the one for which he called me ignorant)?

    Conservative: "He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?"

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