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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    It's a good point to say that perhaps the B-Administration and Congress thought that the wars would be much more "in and out" initially.

    However, my criticism is more towards year 3, 4, or 5 of the war when it became apparent that this thing was going to last for a long time. Why not let the cuts expire to get some short term revenue to help pay down the added military expenses?

    We as a country have voted to raise taxes for every single war, why was Iraq & Afghanistan treated any different? Even the Civil War, before income tax, required that wealthier Americans help finance the extra money spent on troops, weaponry, ect.
    It was actually more irresponsible than that. Recall that Bush and the Republicans passed the biggest part of their tax cuts in 2003, AFTER 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Not only did they fail to raise taxes to pay for the wars -- they passed a huge tax CUT.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Now isn't that wonderful, sell that to the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans! Keep spouting the rhetoric from the DNC which actually diverts from the Obama record TODAY!
    Aren't you the one that claims that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton?


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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It was actually more irresponsible than that. Recall that Bush and the Republicans passed the biggest part of their tax cuts in 2003, AFTER 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Not only did they fail to raise taxes to pay for the wars -- they passed a huge tax CUT.
    Hope you are sending yours back. How do you explain the revenue from those tax cuts going up from 2003-2007?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Aren't you the one that claims that Bush inherited a recession from Clinton?
    He did, March 2001 according to NBER so unless you can tell me what Bush implemented on January 21, 2001 with a Democrat Controlled Senate that created a recession that started in March it was an inherited recession?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It was actually more irresponsible than that. Recall that Bush and the Republicans passed the biggest part of their tax cuts in 2003, AFTER 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. Not only did they fail to raise taxes to pay for the wars -- they passed a huge tax CUT.
    I don't mind lower taxes. In fact, I think lower taxes are generally a great thing for an economy.

    However, when a Gov't needs short term cash (as in time of war) I don't think it ever makes sense to lower the taxes. I agree and would call this sort of fiscal policy very idealistic as opposed to realistic and responsible.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    How much of the declining labor market do you suppose is attributable to baby boomers hitting the age of retirement?
    Why don't you find out instead of making foolish claims of Obama creating job growth. Is that what you want to blame for the increase in the number of unemployed? You really believe that people dropping out of the labor force are counted as unemployed?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    10.6 trillion debt inherited and it is now 14.6? We cannot afford another 4 years of this
    You're only fooling yourself if you think it would be any different with anybody else.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    I don't mind lower taxes. In fact, I think lower taxes are generally a great thing for an economy.

    However, when a Gov't needs short term cash (as in time of war) I don't think it ever makes sense to lower the taxes. I agree and would call this sort of fiscal policy very idealistic as opposed to realistic and responsible.
    Where is the proof that politicians will ever use higher tax revenue to lower the deficit and pay down the debt?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You're only fooling yourself if you think it would be any different with anybody else.
    We will never know but what we do know is what it is right now with Obama in office.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Too quickly to austerity? 10.6 trillion debt inherited and it is now 14.6? We cannot afford another 4 years of this
    Hopefully it won't take another four years. If we are smart about it we should be able to begin addressing the debt in two or three years. If we are stupid about it we will be in a similar position 10 years hence.

    As usual you think with your heart and feelings other than concrete facts and data. You continue to ignore actual data which shows that the tax burden hasn't been shifted to the middle class as 47% mostly middle class aren't paying any FIT
    As usual you are immune to the facts. The fact is that rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, the middle class is getting smaller, and the wealthy are paying a lower percentage of taxes relative to the whole year after year.



    You buy what liberal scientists claim but don't want any debate on the topic.
    Scientists aren't liberal, they are just scientists. And I'm more than happy to debate the science.

    That social safety net has trillions in IOU's and trillions more being created. You simply don't have a clue what you are talking about
    That's true. The system needs to be reformed and taxes have to go up to pay for it.

    Show me in the Constitution Separate of Church and State, too many liberals called the Constitution statement about establishing a religion as separation of church and state but that isn't separation of church and state. Again you have been brainwashed.
    Seriously?

    Right, intollerance on the part of the left is ok but challenging liberal's with logic and facts is? Got it.
    What is that intolerance on the left. Do you have any examples?

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