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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I guess this two paragraph post is telling me to pound sand as for as clarifying anything that you have posted eh? Not surprising though.

    What do you want me to clarify, Obama's net job losses since taking office? Declining Labor market? Less people employed today than when he took office? U-6 unemployment rate of 16.2%? 16.7% unemployment rate for blacks? All this in 2011 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?

    So what do you want me to clarify and when I do won't you just ignore it?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well, it seems that you're in the minority, because poll after poll shows that most Americans recognize that sad state of our economy is mostly attributable to the Bush recession and not Obama's effort to clean up the Republicans' spilled milk. Polls also show Obama leading Republican challengers, though it is obviously too early for that to matter.
    Most people today claim that Obama has done a very poor job on the economy. Most people today have an unfavorable view of Obama? Most people today claim that Obama doesn't deserve a second term. Keep holding to those polls showing Obama beating Republicans while there isn't one Republican candidate. Why do you support another term for Obama? The results aren't bad enough for you so you want more time to make things worse?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Most people today claim that Obama has done a very poor job on the economy. Most people today have an unfavorable view of Obama? Most people today claim that Obama doesn't deserve a second term. Keep holding to those polls showing Obama beating Republicans while there isn't one Republican candidate. Why do you support another term for Obama? The results aren't bad enough for you so you want more time to make things worse?
    Most people today are responsible for the economic state of the United States. Who gives a **** about what the "most people" think.....
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Most people today are responsible for the economic state of the United States. Who gives a **** about what the "most people" think.....
    Your liberal arrogance is second only to the myth of how smart you think you are.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Most people today claim that Obama has done a very poor job on the economy. Most people today have an unfavorable view of Obama? Most people today claim that Obama doesn't deserve a second term. Keep holding to those polls showing Obama beating Republicans while there isn't one Republican candidate. Why do you support another term for Obama? The results aren't bad enough for you so you want more time to make things worse?
    Most people think that the Republicans are a worse alternative, and that's all that matters as far as the election goes. The numbers will only improve for Obama when all of the attention is focused on one of the severely flawed republican candidates.

    I support another term for Obama because I know that he is better for the country than any of the Republicans, who promise to:

    1. move too quickly to austerity, thus ensuring a Japan-style lost decade;
    2. shift the tax burden from the rich to the middle class, speeding the decline of the middle class and the rise of the rich/poor duality;
    3. place politics before science, ignoring the threat of global warming and environmental protection;
    4. weaken the social safety net, leading to increased poverty and ill health;
    5. attack the separation of church and state;
    6. generally stand for intolerance.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What do you want me to clarify, Obama's net job losses since taking office? Declining Labor market? Less people employed today than when he took office? U-6 unemployment rate of 16.2%? 16.7% unemployment rate for blacks? All this in 2011 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?

    So what do you want me to clarify and when I do won't you just ignore it?
    How much of the declining labor market do you suppose is attributable to baby boomers hitting the age of retirement?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    except that during that period revenues increased....See I think that originally the Bush administration thought that Afghanistan, and Iraq would be a cake walk, and initially removing Sadam was, it was the follow through that wasn't so clearly thought out. But that is really hindsight, armchair crap.

    Anyway, with reports of the treasury, and headlines through that period constantly saying that revenues more than expected, why would you think that raising taxes would increase anything?

    j-mac
    It's a good point to say that perhaps the B-Administration and Congress thought that the wars would be much more "in and out" initially.

    However, my criticism is more towards year 3, 4, or 5 of the war when it became apparent that this thing was going to last for a long time. Why not let the cuts expire to get some short term revenue to help pay down the added military expenses?

    We as a country have voted to raise taxes for every single war, why was Iraq & Afghanistan treated any different? Even the Civil War, before income tax, required that wealthier Americans help finance the extra money spent on troops, weaponry, ect.
    Last edited by David D.; 09-12-11 at 02:10 PM.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Most people today claim that Obama has done a very poor job on the economy. Most people today have an unfavorable view of Obama? Most people today claim that Obama doesn't deserve a second term. Keep holding to those polls showing Obama beating Republicans while there isn't one Republican candidate. Why do you support another term for Obama? The results aren't bad enough for you so you want more time to make things worse?
    And by a margin of almost 2 to 1, people polled blame Bush for the current economic conditions and not Obama.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    AdamT;1059791863]Most people think that the Republicans are a worse alternative, and that's all that matters as far as the election goes. The numbers will only improve for Obama when all of the attention is focused on one of the severely flawed republican candidates.

    I support another term for Obama because I know that he is better for the country than any of the Republicans, who promise to:

    1. move too quickly to austerity, thus ensuring a Japan-style lost decade;
    Too quickly to austerity? 10.6 trillion debt inherited and it is now 14.6? We cannot afford another 4 years of this

    2. shift the tax burden from the rich to the middle class, speeding the decline of the middle class and the rise of the rich/poor duality;
    As usual you think with your heart and feelings other than concrete facts and data. You continue to ignore actual data which shows that the tax burden hasn't been shifted to the middle class as 47% mostly middle class aren't paying any FIT

    3. place politics before science, ignoring the threat of global warming and environmental protection;
    You buy what liberal scientists claim but don't want any debate on the topic.

    4. weaken the social safety net, leading to increased poverty and ill health;
    That social safety net has trillions in IOU's and trillions more being created. You simply don't have a clue what you are talking about

    5. attack the separation of church and state;
    Show me in the Constitution Separate of Church and State, too many liberals called the Constitution statement about establishing a religion as separation of church and state but that isn't separation of church and state. Again you have been brainwashed.

    6. generally stand for intolerance.
    Right, intollerance on the part of the left is ok but challenging liberal's with logic and facts is? Got it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And by a margin of almost 2 to 1, people polled blame Bush for the current economic conditions and not Obama.
    Guess that is why the Obama poll numbers are so high and his handling of the economy showing massive support?

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