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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Well, technically, the Dems did vote to go to war too.

    However on the same token, not sure why the GOP maintained the tax cut at this time, as it makes no sense to me why you'd want to reduce your potential revenue flow during wartime.
    Democrats controlled the Senate and the vote was 77-23 to give Bush the authority to go to war and it was the Democrats that controlled the Lame Duck Congress that authorized extensionof the Bush tax cuts. Democrats controlled the Senate in 2001-2002 and Democrats controlled the entire Congress from 2007 through 2010.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Pay attention, Earl

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    What a pile of monkey turds, today's Republican party is not for "The People," they are for the giant mega corporations and the crooks on Wall Street and Banks that put our future in jeopardy by bringing us the worse recession since the Great Depression. Between Feb 2008 and the end of June 2009, the supposed end of the recession, 7.674 million private sector jobs were lost due to the Bush Recession.

    Private sector jobs gains/losses

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2008 Gains/
    Loss
    4 -128 -87 -186 -240 -217 -265 -317 -434 -491 -787 -636
    2009 Gains/
    Loss
    -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 Gains/
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    -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 Gains/
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    94 261 219 241 99 75 156 17

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Well, technically, the Dems did vote to go to war too.

    However on the same token, not sure why the GOP maintained the tax cut at this time, as it makes no sense to me why you'd want to reduce your potential revenue flow during wartime.
    except that during that period revenues increased....See I think that originally the Bush administration thought that Afghanistan, and Iraq would be a cake walk, and initially removing Sadam was, it was the follow through that wasn't so clearly thought out. But that is really hindsight, armchair crap.

    Anyway, with reports of the treasury, and headlines through that period constantly saying that revenues more than expected, why would you think that raising taxes would increase anything?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Repubs spent during the Bush years like they were progressive liberals...
    When exactly in recent history did these progressive liberals spend so much to be compared to the spending of Republicans? Conservatives presidents spend FAR more than Liberal presidents.

    It's more like Republicans spend like Republicans. Liberals at least try to balance the budget, Republicans just spend as if there is no such thing as a budget and their funds are unlimited.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    except that during that period revenues increased....See I think that originally the Bush administration thought that Afghanistan, and Iraq would be a cake walk, and initially removing Sadam was, it was the follow through that wasn't so clearly thought out. But that is really hindsight, armchair crap.

    Anyway, with reports of the treasury, and headlines through that period constantly saying that revenues more than expected, why would you think that raising taxes would increase anything?

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    Raising taxes to pay for wars overseas would have been optimal IMO. The voting public would have been far more vocal about it if we were forced to pay for this war as we go.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Raising taxes to pay for wars overseas would have been optimal IMO. The voting public would have been far more vocal about it if we were forced to pay for this war as we go.
    And that is the real reason you wanted a tax increase isn't it...You wanted more vocal disapproval of the war.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    When exactly in recent history did these progressive liberals spend so much to be compared to the spending of Republicans? Conservatives presidents spend FAR more than Liberal presidents.

    It's more like Republicans spend like Republicans. Liberals at least try to balance the budget, Republicans just spend as if there is no such thing as a budget and their funds are unlimited.
    Stop, you'll get dizzy spinning like that.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Democrats controlled the Senate and the vote was 77-23 to give Bush the authority to go to war and it was the Democrats that controlled the Lame Duck Congress that authorized extensionof the Bush tax cuts. Democrats controlled the Senate in 2001-2002 and Democrats controlled the entire Congress from 2007 through 2010.
    Democrats in the House voted against giving Bush authority, i.e., if it had been solely up to Democrats, Bush would not have had the authority to use force in Iraq.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I understand exactly where those numbers come from since you insist on being a hypocrite.

    Since you're running away from answering my challenge of admitting 23 million jobs were created under Clinton, I will have to pull up what you did say when you did answer that ...


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    heik Yerbuti: "Worked well for Clinton, 23 million jobs were gained during his 8 years."

    Conservative: "Better clear up the number with BLS because they disagree. Employment January of each year. Don't see the 23 million" [in household survey data]

    Sheik Yerbuti: "According to the BLS payroll data, there were 23 million additional people on payrolls during his 2 terms. Call them and complain."

    Conservative: "So 132.5 million employed in January 2001? Don't you think you might be looking at the wrong chart? No, that couldn't be it."



    So why are you looking at the wrong chart now? How comne you now prefer payroll data ("the wrong chart") which shows zero net jobs gained over household survey data ("the right chart") which shows a net gain of 331,000 jobs?

    Can you be any more dishonest, Con?



    I notice that conservative hasn't addressed this discrepancy as of yet Shiek. It must be hell...so sad.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Stop, you'll get dizzy spinning like that.

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    What do you believe I'm spinning? The fact that Republican presidents spend like our money is endless or that Democratic presidents have at least attempted to balance the budget?
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