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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    It was indeed the Bush budget and the Obama spending of that budget. Bush and Congress own the budget and Obama along with the Congress own the spending. Although that is a fact it has nothing to do with the thread topic which is about no net change in jobs nor a recognition of the 25 million unemployed and under employed which is worse than when he took office 2 1/2 years earlier
    No matter how many times you make that fallacious claim, it will never be true. The Constitution does not permit an incoming president to tell the Congress how to spend the money budgeted by the previous administration and Congress.

    He just can't do what you're blaming him of doing.

    The budget is Bush's. He owns it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Doesn't matter what Bush had only what Obama HAS. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012. Still waiting for an answer as to what Bush did to you and your family that has created such hatred and almost every post of yours including something Bush did. It looks like most peope today would like to have Bush back instead of Obama.
    Doubt that given most people still blame Bush for the current economic conditions.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Doubt that given most people still blame Bush for the current economic conditions.
    Only the brainwashed, braindead, and clueless. No one in their right mind can blame Bush for what is going on 2 1/2 years after Obama took office.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only the brainwashed, braindead, and clueless. No one in their right mind can blame Bush for what is going on 2 1/2 years after Obama took office.
    First of all, we have a House and a Senate w/ equal lawmaking powers as the President, so no one man can ever really be to blame for all of the woes a country may be facing when looking to our government.

    Also, it's not by any means unreasonable to think that the economic policy decisions enacted 5, 10, or even 15+ years ago are still having a very poignant effect on on our current economy today.

    The US economy is humongous and doesn't react to policy changes overnight; it can take years.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    First of all, we have a House and a Senate w/ equal lawmaking powers as the President, so no one man can ever really be to blame for all of the woes a country may be facing when looking to our government.

    Also, it's not by any means unreasonable to think that the economic policy decisions enacted 5, 10, or even 15+ years ago are still having a very poignant effect on on our current economy today.

    The US economy is humongous and doesn't react to policy changes overnight; it can take years.
    Your response isn't going to make Sheik very happy or anyone else with BDS. Don't disagree with you but wonder how all those liberals who bought the Obama "Hope and Change" message feel today about the results. They are the ones that continue to blame Bush when the reality is there is plenty of blame to go around for both parties. Obama promised to change the tone in D.C. and with a Democrat Congress changed immediately and his economic plan got zero Republican support because of the leftwing agenda he proposed and implemented

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your response isn't going to make Sheik very happy or anyone else with BDS. Don't disagree with you but wonder how all those liberals who bought the Obama "Hope and Change" message feel today about the results. They are the ones that continue to blame Bush when the reality is there is plenty of blame to go around for both parties. Obama promised to change the tone in D.C. and with a Democrat Congress changed immediately and his economic plan got zero Republican support because of the leftwing agenda he proposed and implemented
    President Obama made one major error he failed to push his agenda through when he had control of both houses, his concillatory approach ended up causing a lot of democrats to lose thier political races in 2010.

    He did not lose the co-operation of the republicans you can't lose what you never had, the republicans using the tea baggers have refused to negotiate, they demand like they did with the debt ceiling.

    It's time way pass time to send the republicans a clear message, we have one more chance in 2012, Every republican has to be voted out if the middle class and poor are going to have any chance at a descent standard of living

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Only the brainwashed, braindead, and clueless. No one in their right mind can blame Bush for what is going on 2 1/2 years after Obama took office.
    What an assinine statement. Bush increased the national debt by almost $6 trillion dollars. That debt didn't go away when he pulled his U-haul up to the West Wing. He started two wars that we're still fighting. He oversaw the biggest recession in three generations.

    The funny thing is that conservatives whine about Obama destroying the future for their grandchildren. What's that? Twenty, thirty years down the road? But Bush's gross negligence apparently had a half life of what? A week? A month, tops?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What an assinine statement. Bush increased the national debt by almost $6 trillion dollars. That debt didn't go away when he pulled his U-haul up to the West Wing. He started two wars that we're still fighting. He oversaw the biggest recession in three generations.

    The funny thing is that conservatives whine about Obama destroying the future for their grandchildren. What's that? Twenty, thirty years down the road? But Bush's gross negligence apparently had a half life of what? A week? A month, tops?
    This is getting really sad, you obviously have never taken a civics lesson and make statements either to provoke or because you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Debt is cumulative and deficits are yearly. How did Bush create the deficits of 2010 and 2011? Yes, he oversaw a recession but it wasn't the worst in history, 81-82 due to 17.5% interest rates was worse.

    The funny thing really is that you ignore Democrats controlled Congress and Obama was in that Congress. Democrats voted for the budget and thus the deficit and Obama voted for it along with TARP. His record today has nothing to do with Bush and is all his own doing. That is a fact, that is reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is getting really sad, you obviously have never taken a civics lesson and make statements either to provoke or because you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Debt is cumulative and deficits are yearly. How did Bush create the deficits of 2010 and 2011? Yes, he oversaw a recession but it wasn't the worst in history, 81-82 due to 17.5% interest rates was worse.

    The funny thing really is that you ignore Democrats controlled Congress and Obama was in that Congress. Democrats voted for the budget and thus the deficit and Obama voted for it along with TARP. His record today has nothing to do with Bush and is all his own doing. That is a fact, that is reality.
    I just want to point out that's it's not fair to blame the Dem Congress for key failures during the W. Bush administration, and not the GOP Congress for key failures of the Obama administration.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    David D.;1059791571]I just want to point out that's it's not fair to blame the Dem Congress for key failures during the W. Bush administration, and not the GOP Congress for key failures of the Obama administration.
    I have no problem with that when you point to the GOP Control of Congress during the Obama term?

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