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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You never refer to payroll data, why are you doing so now? From that article...


    Nonfarm payroll employment was unchanged (0) in August

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess that's a hell of a lot better than losing over 700,000 jobs in one month, which is what Bush handed Obama.
    yet amazingly Obama has 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office. You proud of those results?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You never refer to payroll data, why are you doing so now? From that article...


    Nonfarm payroll employment was unchanged (0) in August
    Yep, too bad that there are still 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office and 25 million total unemployed and under employed along with a 16.2% U-6. Seems you don't understand where the unemployment numbers came from so I thought I would help you

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Amazing how little you know about the American economy, most of the jobs created in this country aren't created by the large corporations but instead the small businesses who are being hurt the most by liberalism and Obama. We have a working labor force today of about 140 million and 50 million work for large corporations meaning that 90 million work for small businesses. you have such disdain for those 50 million
    Nevermind the fact that the historical threat to the existence of the Small Business Administration, and its loan programs, have traditionally come from conservatives, right?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Nevermind the fact that the historical threat to the existence of the Small Business Administration, and its loan programs, have traditionally come from conservatives, right?
    What does that have to do with who creates the jobs and the thread topic

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You really don't seem to understand budgets at all, they are guidelines not actual spending amounts. Bush was in office less than 4 months of fiscal year 2009, Obama was in office over 8 months. No way did Bush spend the 2009 budget in 4 months. Bush owned the budget, Obama was responsible for most of the spending but those facts escape you
    No matter how many times you make that fallacious claim, it will never be true. The Constitution does not permit an incoming president to tell the Congress how to spend the money budgeted by the previous administration and Congress.

    He just can't do what you're blaming him of doing.

    The budget is Bush's. He owns it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    yet amazingly Obama has 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office. You proud of those results?
    By this time in his presidency, Bush had 3 million more unemployed. And that was in an economy he inherited that was far healthier than the one he left for Obama. Were you proud? You must have been, you voted for him at least 4 times and you'd vote for him again if he could run.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No matter how many times you make that fallacious claim, it will never be true. The Constitution does not permit an incoming president to tell the Congress how to spend the money budgeted by the previous administration and Congress.

    He just can't do what you're blaming him of doing.

    The budget is Bush's. He owns it.
    It was indeed the Bush budget and the Obama spending of that budget. Bush and Congress own the budget and Obama along with the Congress own the spending. Although that is a fact it has nothing to do with the thread topic which is about no net change in jobs nor a recognition of the 25 million unemployed and under employed which is worse than when he took office 2 1/2 years earlier

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    By this time in his presidency, Bush had 3 million more unemployed. And that was in an economy he inherited that was far healthier than the one he left for Obama. Were you proud? You must have been, you voted for him at least 4 times and you'd vote for him again if he could run.
    Doesn't matter what Bush had only what Obama HAS. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012. Still waiting for an answer as to what Bush did to you and your family that has created such hatred and almost every post of yours including something Bush did. It looks like most peope today would like to have Bush back instead of Obama.

    2004 unemployment rate

    2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Yep, too bad that there are still 2 million more unemployed today than when he took office and 25 million total unemployed and under employed along with a 16.2% U-6. Seems you don't understand where the unemployment numbers came from so I thought I would help you
    I understand exactly where those numbers come from since you insist on being a hypocrite.

    Since you're running away from answering my challenge of admitting 23 million jobs were created under Clinton, I will have to pull up what you did say when you did answer that ...


    Sheik Yerbuti: "Worked well for Clinton, 23 million jobs were gained during his 8 years."

    Conservative: "Better clear up the number with BLS because they disagree. Employment January of each year. Don't see the 23 million" [in household survey data]

    Sheik Yerbuti: "According to the BLS payroll data, there were 23 million additional people on payrolls during his 2 terms. Call them and complain."

    Conservative: "So 132.5 million employed in January 2001? Don't you think you might be looking at the wrong chart? No, that couldn't be it."


    So why are you looking at the wrong chart now? How comne you now prefer payroll data ("the wrong chart") which shows zero net jobs gained over household survey data ("the right chart") which shows a net gain of 331,000 jobs?

    Can you be any more dishonest, Con?

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