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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, this entire thread is a testament to your hypocrisy.

    You insist that BLS's payroll data is not the data to be used to determine employment/unemployment, yet you now cling to it desperately in order to claim that "employers add no net jobs in Aug." even though the data you do swear by, household survey data, indicates a net gain of 331,000 jobs.
    The official numbers come from BLS.gov and the real numbers show a net job loss, declining labor force, an average of over 1 million discouraged workers since Obama took office, 25 million unemployed and under Employed Americans. I know this is hard for you to understand but it doesn't do any good gaining 331,000 jobs and still have over 2 million more unemployed than when he took office. this is the Obama economy and record that will be on the ballot in 2012, not GW Bush's nor what you perceive to be the problem because what you perceive ignores reality.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The 2009 budget and spending was approved by the Democrat controlled Congress and Obama put the Department heads in place after he took office to spend the money. Name calling is all that you can do. I don't pay a lot of attention to the name calling but do enjoy seeing your liberal arrogance. I would like to know what GW Bush did to hurt you and your family so much that here we are 2 1/2 years after he left office and you have such hatred for the man. He did a lot of good things and showed the class that liberals always hate. Too bad that all you can do is trash a good man.

    President G. W. Bush Speech at National Cathedral after 9/11 - YouTube
    It's Bush's budget. He owns it just like Obama owns the budgets he signs.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's Bush's budget. He owns it just like Obama owns the budgets he signs.
    It was approved by the Congress which owns all budgets. Maybe a civics class would help you. Democrats controlled that Congress and it passed with almost total Democrat support including Obama's. Then Obama had his selections manage those budgets. Again civics isn't one of your strong suits.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The official numbers come from BLS.gov and the real numbers show a net job loss, declining labor force, an average of over 1 million discouraged workers since Obama took office, 25 million unemployed and under Employed Americans.
    That doesn't even begin to explain why you're now touting BLS payroll data after all the times you insisted household survey data is the data which matters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I know this is hard for you to understand but it doesn't do any good gaining 331,000 jobs and still have over 2 million more unemployed than when he took office. this is the Obama economy and record that will be on the ballot in 2012, not GW Bush's nor what you perceive to be the problem because what you perceive ignores reality.
    WTF?? Gaining 331,000 jobs doesn't do any good?? How on Earth do you think we'll get to positive job growth without gains like that? You think all 2 million jobs are going to be gained in a single month?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It was approved by the Congress which owns all budgets. Maybe a civics class would help you. Democrats controlled that Congress and it passed with almost total Democrat support including Obama's. Then Obama had his selections manage those budgets. Again civics isn't one of your strong suits.
    I think I understand now: Bush was president for eight years, and republicans controlled congress for six years, but they are responsible for absolutely nothing. The buck stops either at Obama's desk or the Democratic Congress' desk. Obama is responsible for everything -- even things that happened before he was even in the Senate. How about that Republican belief in personal responsibility?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This is the thread topic: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    You really need to get over your BDS, it really is a sickness that makes you look very bad.
    Lets cut all the BS it does not matter who is President or what party they represent, our work now belongs to China and India. Neither party is going to fight globalization both partes have embraced it as the way of the future. American workers are on thier way to the bottom of the food chain. How can an american worker compete with the wages paid to workers in China, India,Viet Nam? The answer is simple they can't. Even if Americans are willing to work for 50 cents an hour that still won't bring work home, they have to be willing to pollute the air to where they can't breathe it and the water to where they can't bathe in it let alone drink it.

    The middle class and poor are being sold a crock of pickled pig bellies. While the rich cry like babies thier paid henchmen/women go after SS, medicare, medicaid, education and any other program that might benefit the middle class and poor. What is it going to take before people realize that the transfer of wealth in this country was no accident and it ain't over yet. 80% of the American population still controls 7% of the nations wealth and that 20% that controls 93% of this countries wealth won't rest until they control 100%.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That doesn't even begin to explain why you're now touting BLS payroll data after all the times you insisted household survey data is the data which matters.


    WTF?? Gaining 331,000 jobs doesn't do any good?? How on Earth do you think we'll get to positive job growth without gains like that? You think all 2 million jobs are going to be gained in a single month?
    Not when the net is a 2 million job loss and a declining employment base. Official numbers come from the news release from BLS, you ought to read it. There are two sources that contribute to that number. You don't have a clue how BLS works

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Lets cut all the BS it does not matter who is President or what party they represent, our work now belongs to China and India. Neither party is going to fight globalization both partes have embraced it as the way of the future. American workers are on thier way to the bottom of the food chain. How can an american worker compete with the wages paid to workers in China, India,Viet Nam? The answer is simple they can't. Even if Americans are willing to work for 50 cents an hour that still won't bring work home, they have to be willing to pollute the air to where they can't breathe it and the water to where they can't bathe in it let alone drink it.

    The middle class and poor are being sold a crock of pickled pig bellies. While the rich cry like babies thier paid henchmen/women go after SS, medicare, medicaid, education and any other program that might benefit the middle class and poor. What is it going to take before people realize that the transfer of wealth in this country was no accident and it ain't over yet. 80% of the American population still controls 7% of the nations wealth and that 20% that controls 93% of this countries wealth won't rest until they control 100%.
    Obama was going to change the tone in Washington so tell me how that "Hope and Change" is working out for you? So let's cut the bs as you say, you don't give a damn about the poor and middle class for if you did you would be doing something about it.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think I understand now: Bush was president for eight years, and republicans controlled congress for six years, but they are responsible for absolutely nothing. The buck stops either at Obama's desk or the Democratic Congress' desk. Obama is responsible for everything -- even things that happened before he was even in the Senate. How about that Republican belief in personal responsibility?
    Been there before but apparently you weren't around in 2001-2002 when Democrats controlled the Senate or did you forget Senate Majority Leader Daschle

    107th Congress (2001-2003)

    Majority Leader: Thomas A. Daschle (D-SD)

    Minority Leader: Trent Lott (R-MS)

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    It was approved by the Congress which owns all budgets. Maybe a civics class would help you. Democrats controlled that Congress and it passed with almost total Democrat support including Obama's. Then Obama had his selections manage those budgets. Again civics isn't one of your strong suits.
    Here's a lesson for you in how our government operates ... no budget gets passed without the final approval by the president.

    It's Bush's budget. He owns it. Deal with it. I've never seen anyone so desperate to pawn off a budget onto someone else as you are. Why on Earth did Bush approve such a budget if it was that horrible? Why did he pass the one a year earlier which also led to a trillion dollar deficit? Why did he approve the other six, 5 of which were over half a trillion and the sixth one was close to half a trillion?

    Does Bush own any of those budgets?

    Here are the deficits during Bush's 8 budgets ...

    09/30/2002: 420,772,553,397
    09/30/2003: 554,995,097,146
    09/30/2004: 595,821,633,587
    09/30/2005 :553,656,965,393
    09/29/2006: 574,264,237,492
    09/28/2007: 500,679,473,047
    09/30/2008: 1,017,071,524,650
    09/30/2009: 1,885,104,106,599

    Please tell me which of those you think Bush owns?

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