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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    August 2011, 2 1/2 years after Obama took office

    Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Obama has 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans, more unemployment than when he took office, a smaller labor force, and more discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force. you want to give him four more years?
    And still better than Bush, as I just showed you in terms of underemployment.

    Bush: 115,505 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama: 106,333 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama is doing better than Bush, yet you would vote for Bush again if you could and criticize others for voting for Obama.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And still better than Bush, as I just showed you in terms of underemployment.

    Bush: 115,505 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama: 106,333 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama is doing better than Bush, yet you would vote for Bush again if you could and criticize others for voting for Obama.
    Hey, don't worry, things are great, only 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans,more unemployed than when he took office and increasing the debt by 4 trillion, reduction of the labor force, and record numbers of discouraged workers throughout his term. You have a job so no problem, right?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Start another thread, let me know when you do, and I will be happy to join you there and discuss those issues. Until then this thread is as follows and so are Obama's results

    Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Obama has 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans, more unemployment than when he took office, a smaller labor force, and more discouraged workers dropping out of the labor force. you want to give him four more years?
    I want to give him 8 more years with a democratic senate and congress, I am going to ask you again why would BB " Big Business" or SB "Small Businesses" want to hire when they think that if a repub gets elected in 2012 they will see a bunch of perks

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And still better than Bush, as I just showed you in terms of underemployment.

    Bush: 115,505 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama: 106,333 additional underemployed on average per month

    Obama is doing better than Bush, yet you would vote for Bush again if you could and criticize others for voting for Obama.
    U-6 Unemployment rate

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 7.3 7.4 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.9 7.8 8.1 8.7 9.3 9.4 9.6
    2002 9.5 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8
    2003 10.0 10.2 10.0 10.2 10.1 10.3 10.3 10.1 10.4 10.2 10.0 9.8
    2004 9.9 9.7 10.0 9.6 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.4 9.4 9.7 9.4 9.2
    2005 9.3 9.3 9.1 8.9 8.9 9.0 8.8 8.9 9.0 8.7 8.7 8.6
    2006 8.4 8.4 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.4 8.5 8.4 8.0 8.2 8.1 7.9
    2007 8.4 8.1 8.0 8.2 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.5 8.8
    2008 9.1 8.9 9.0 9.2 9.7 10.1 10.5 10.9 11.2 11.9 12.7 13.6
    2009 14.1 15.0 15.6 15.8 16.4 16.6 16.5 16.8 17.0 17.4 17.1 17.2
    2010 16.5 16.8 16.8 17.0 16.5 16.5 16.5 16.7 17.1 17.0 17.0 16.7
    2011 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2

    Discouraged workers

    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I want to give him 8 more years with a democratic senate and congress, I am going to ask you again why would BB " Big Business" or SB "Small Businesses" want to hire when they think that if a repub gets elected in 2012 they will see a bunch of perks
    He had it 2 years with total overwhelming control of Congress and gave us the following record 2 1/2 years later

    Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.

    If what you say is true and you care about putting 25 million plus unemployed and under employed Americans back to work then sounds like a good reason to Fire Obama since obviously in your opinion his record isn't reason enough to do that

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    U-6 Unemployment rate

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2001 7.3 7.4 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.9 7.8 8.1 8.7 9.3 9.4 9.6
    2002 9.5 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8
    2003 10.0 10.2 10.0 10.2 10.1 10.3 10.3 10.1 10.4 10.2 10.0 9.8
    2004 9.9 9.7 10.0 9.6 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.4 9.4 9.7 9.4 9.2
    2005 9.3 9.3 9.1 8.9 8.9 9.0 8.8 8.9 9.0 8.7 8.7 8.6
    2006 8.4 8.4 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.4 8.5 8.4 8.0 8.2 8.1 7.9
    2007 8.4 8.1 8.0 8.2 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.4 8.4 8.5 8.8
    2008 9.1 8.9 9.0 9.2 9.7 10.1 10.5 10.9 11.2 11.9 12.7 13.6
    2009 14.1 15.0 15.6 15.8 16.4 16.6 16.5 16.8 17.0 17.4 17.1 17.2
    2010 16.5 16.8 16.8 17.0 16.5 16.5 16.5 16.7 17.1 17.0 17.0 16.7
    2011 16.1 15.9 15.7 15.9 15.8 16.2 16.1 16.2

    Discouraged workers

    2001 301 287 349 349 328 294 310 337 285 331 328 348 321
    2002 328 375 330 320 414 342 405 378 392 359 385 403 369
    2003 449 450 474 437 482 478 470 503 388 462 457 433 457
    2004 432 484 514 492 476 478 504 534 412 429 392 442 466
    2005 515 485 480 393 392 476 499 384 362 392 404 451 436
    2006 396 386 451 381 323 481 428 448 325 331 349 274 381
    2007 442 375 381 399 368 401 367 392 276 320 349 363 369
    2008 467 396 401 412 400 420 461 381 467 484 608 642 462
    2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
    2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
    2011 993 1020 921 989 822 982 1119


    When in doubt hit random number hot key. ah ****, some things never change.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    U-6 Unemployment rate
    Proving what? That Obama is president during the worst recession since the great depression?

    When you look at the U6 change rates over time, Bush and Obama are basically the same.

    He had it 2 years with total overwhelming control of Congress and gave us the following record 2 1/2 years later
    Do you ever stop lying?

    Was the Healthcare Bill passed with overwhelming control?

    The funny thing is you pretend to understand this, but you are ignoring the basis of the problem here. Only in your world does a financial crisis that almost collapsed the banking sector fix itself in 2 years. Despite the entirety of history suggesting it takes at least 6 to get back to GDP prior to the recession.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    When in doubt hit random number hot key. ah ****, some things never change.
    You are absolutely correct total unemployment numbers and discouraged workers have no impact on the economy and the record that will be on the ballot in 2012. thanks for clearing that up. Glad things are so much better 2 1/2 years after Obama took office. Isn't that what the numbers show?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please feel free to put the Bush/Obama record side by side using averages. Even with the terrible 2008 the results are Bush by a wide margin in positive results.
    Do you see the economy that Bush gave to Obama and see how it gradually changes:

    Jobs:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
    2008 Gains/
    Loss
    4 -128 -87 -186 -240 -217 -265 -317 -434 -491 -787 -636
    2009 Gains/
    Loss
    -841 -721 -787 -773 -326 -438 -287 -215 -213 -250 -34 -102
    2010 Gains/
    Loss
    -42 -21 144 229 48 65 93 110 109 143 128 167
    2011 Gains/
    Loss
    94 261 219 241 99 75 156 17
    Last edited by pbrauer; 09-10-11 at 11:49 PM.

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