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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Silliness aside, you're still not addressing the facts. SS does not match the definition of a ponzi scheme. Silliness by you will not chnage that.
    Silliness aside SS has to be revised and is bankrupt being propped up by creating more IOU's, a slick accounting scheme. Now tell me what this has to do with the thread topic. Keep promoting off topic discussion. You want to discuss SS start a new thread.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    You are right, I got taken off topic again by a group of liberals who want to run from the Obama record
    Now there's a shining example of taking personal responsibility for ones actions.














    Not.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Silliness aside SS has to be revised and is bankrupt being propped up by creating more IOU's, a slick accounting scheme. Now tell me what this has to do with the thread topic. Keep promoting off topic discussion. You want to discuss SS start a new thread.
    A separate issue. Work may well need to be done to keep SS viable. But that is not equal to the silly claim that SS is a Ponzi Scheme. Now, everytime you get called on saying something silly, you start trying to divert attention from it. You were talking Ponzi scheme, so you have to be responsibile for your silliness.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Please feel free to put the Bush/Obama record side by side using averages. Even with the terrible 2008 the results are Bush by a wide margin in positive results. Seems you have a problem with keeping more of your own money and want to reward the politicians that created the 14.6 trillion dollar debt. by all means do just that, send in more of your own money. How many times do you want to tax corporation income?



    We have enough laws on the books to prevent problems you are concerned about so how about letting private business do their jobs growing their business and hiring new employees. Like all liberals you seem to not understand most hires come from small businesses not those evil corporations and they are being hurt by Obamanomics



    You have a lot of nerve supporting a law that has no hope of lowering healthcare costs and destroys jobs



    Let me know when it passes.
    For you any thing I will keep my eye on it, Do they deduct SS from illegals?

    BTW can you tell me why Texas not only allows illegal immigrants to go to school but provides financial assistance for them to go to college?

    The number of illegal immigrant college students paying in-state tuition and receiving financial aid at Texas' public colleges and universities continues to climb, according to state higher education records.

    During the fall semester, 12,138 students - about 1 percent of all Texas college students - benefited from the state law granting in-state tuition, according to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Most of the immigrants among those students are illegal, and some others are not legal permanent residents or U.S. citizens.

    Texas awarded about $33.6 million in state and institutional financial aid to those students between fall 2004 and summer 2008.

    In 2001, Texas became the first state in the country to pass an in-state tuition law. The law created a national movement. Many private universities also now award aid to illegal immigrant students.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A separate issue. Work may well need to be done to keep SS viable. But that is not equal to the silly claim that SS is a Ponzi Scheme. Now, everytime you get called on saying something silly, you start trying to divert attention from it. You were talking Ponzi scheme, so you have to be responsibile for your silliness.
    Already told you I stand by my statement and there are a lot of people who agree with me. Technically it is a ponzi scheme because it requires younger workers to keep it viable and that is how a ponzi scheme workers although maybe not younger workers but rather new suckers. Now if you want to continue this start a new thread or just keep running from the disaster "your" President is.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Where do you get the idea that tax cuts reduce purchasing power?
    Because tax cuts boost M1. Without a corresponding increase in asset values to offset the increase in M1, there is more money chasing less goods, resulting in inflation and thereby a cut to purchasing power.

    It's not how many did, but could they? I a government agency has invented electricity, the airplane or the automobile I'm sure they would be held up as examples today also
    There's a massive difference between inventing the basic idea and actually getting the necessary parts, expertise and equipment to allow an industry to take off.

    The point is, even if there was, they wouldn't have been able to. There was quite a squabble over AC or DC power. Much was invested in both. For the DC arguement it was wasted.

    I can use the very same arguement...... Would we have went to the moon without the Wright Brothers? Would we have won WWII without Ford and GM?
    No, you can't. Your argument is based in the logic that there is no large upfront capital costs to commercialization nascent industries. That there is no large barriers from turning a concept into a commercialized, profitable product.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    For you any thing I will keep my eye on it, Do they deduct SS from illegals?

    BTW can you tell me why Texas not only allows illegal immigrants to go to school but provides financial assistance for them to go to college?
    Illegals' shouldn't be working in TX.

    If what you say is correct, that is wrong but what does that have to do with the thread topic. Sounds like the kind of program that liberals would love. I know Obama would support it so what is your point. I don't support it showing that not everything a Republican does is acceptable.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program today, not the one originally intended but the one that has transformed into SS of today.
    Since when did SS offer reliable, predictable rates of growth? No one expects Social Security investments to pay off handsomely.

    And I'd rather pay into Social Security, than pay gobs more paying for elderly welfare.
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Silliness aside SS has to be revised and is bankrupt being propped up by creating more IOU's, a slick accounting scheme. Now tell me what this has to do with the thread topic. Keep promoting off topic discussion. You want to discuss SS start a new thread.
    And who's fault is the IOU problem?

    Who wants to bet that Conservative will never ever ever blame Republicans for raiding the fund just like Democrats?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Technically it is a ponzi scheme because it requires younger workers to keep it viable and that is how a ponzi scheme workers although maybe not younger workers but rather new suckers.
    No, "technically," it's not. It's only a ponzi scheme when you alter the definition of what a ponzi scheme is. By your definition, my homeowners insurance is a ponzi scheme since it is also requires others to participate, otherwise I can't collect when damage occurs to my house.

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