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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, why wouldn't anyone want a President who added 4 trillion to the debt, increased unemployment, reduced the labor force, has 25 million plus unemployed and under employed Americans, 1% economic growth, a rising misery index, record budgets,and no clue how to run anything? Yep, ideology trumps results in the liberal world.
    In the last quarter of 2008 the economy was growing at a -8.9% thats not a dash that is a negative 8.9% growth, wasn't it at that point in that quarter that President Bush said the state of the economy is good? He was right on top of it wasn't he?

    I am only guessing because it's impossible to do any thing else except second guess that if President Obama had not proceeded to do what he did that we would not be in as good a shape financially as we are, now you can call it bad and say that I am brain washed and you probably will but there is no way to predict where we would be if President Obama had not taken the steps he took.

    Just to humor me tell me what you would have done differently?

    BTW Do you think that making it legal to hire illegals is a good way to discourage illegals from crossing into the USA?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Still waiting for that quote, Con.

    How come you can't prove your accusations? Is that because you were lying again? You said I have a problem with others making as much money as possible.

    For the 3rd time ... prove I ever said that.
    I am waiting for you to get on topic. Why do you care if I cite a quote of yours? you don't think liberals are promoting class warfare? You are a liberal, aren't you? Or is your leanings a lie?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I am waiting for you to get on topic. Why do you care if I cite a quote of yours? you don't think liberals are promoting class warfare? You are a liberal, aren't you? Or is your leanings a lie?
    Is the thread topic SS? I am just asking because it seems like you are fixated on nothing well make that almost nothing else.BTW the thread topic is
    Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged
    Do you think that adding no jobs in august is better or worst then losing several hundred thousand jobs?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    EarlzP;1059789402]In the last quarter of 2008 the economy was growing at a -8.9% thats not a dash that is a negative 8.9% growth, wasn't it at that point in that quarter that President Bush said the state of the economy is good? He was right on top of it wasn't he?
    yes, it was, now tell me why the Democrat Controlled Congress cared more about regaining the WH than keeping the economy from tanking? Economists say TARP saved the economy but don't recall that Bush said the state of the economy was good, but what is the point today? Is the economy good today, 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?

    I am only guessing because it's impossible to do any thing else except second guess that if President Obama had not proceeded to do what he did that we would not be in as good a shape financially as we are, now you can call it bad and say that I am brain washed and you probably will but there is no way to predict where we would be if President Obama had not taken the steps he took.
    So what exactly did Obama do that made the economy better and do you call 1% GDP growth, 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, rising misery index good?

    Just to humor me tell me what you would have done differently?
    I would have spent the 842 billion dollars in the private sector, not bailing out union pension plans and "saving" state jobs. I wouldn't have put regulations in place that hurt employment like banning oil drilling for as long as he did. I wouldn't have fought S.Carolina's attempt to hire 1000 non union employees, and I wouldn't have fought for Obamacare with the economy in the tank and jobs being lost.

    BTW Do you think that making it legal to hire illegals is a good way to discourage illegals from crossing into the USA?
    It is Obama that seems to want open borders and an increase in the Democrat voting base. Who wants to make it legal to hire illegal's?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Is the thread topic SS? I am just asking because it seems like you are fixated on nothing well make that almost nothing else.BTW the thread topic is

    Do you think that adding no jobs in august is better or worst then losing several hundred thousand jobs?
    You are right, I got taken off topic again by a group of liberals who want to run from the Obama record

    After spending as much money as Obama and it being 2 1/2 years later plus having more unemployed than when he took office, more discouraged workers, a declining labor force, yes, it is worse for all we have to show for it is 4 trillion added to the debt and 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You are right, I got taken off topic again by a group of liberals who want to run from the Obama record

    After spending as much money as Obama and it being 2 1/2 years later plus having more unemployed than when he took office, more discouraged workers, a declining labor force, yes, it is worse for all we have to show for it is 4 trillion added to the debt and 25 plus million unemployed and under employed Americans.


    What do you want to bet that if I go back and started rooting in this thread that I will find that you derailed this thread multiple times?
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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I am waiting for you to get on topic. Why do you care if I cite a quote of yours?
    Translation: You lied again and cannot prove the false claim you made against me.

    Ok, that clears things up.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    yes, it was, now tell me why the Democrat Controlled Congress cared more about regaining the WH than keeping the economy from tanking? Economists say TARP saved the economy but don't recall that Bush said the state of the economy was good, but what is the point today? Is the economy good today, 2 1/2 years after Obama took office?



    So what exactly did Obama do that made the economy better and do you call 1% GDP growth, 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans, rising misery index good?



    I would have spent the 842 billion dollars in the private sector, not bailing out union pension plans and "saving" state jobs. I wouldn't have put regulations in place that hurt employment like banning oil drilling for as long as he did. I wouldn't have fought S.Carolina's attempt to hire 1000 non union employees, and I wouldn't have fought for Obamacare with the economy in the tank and jobs being lost.

    It is Obama that seems to want open borders and an increase in the Democrat voting base. Who wants to make it legal to hire illegal's?
    10 years of the Bush Tax cuts just didn't seem to create any thing but outsourcing of American jobs and you want to give big business what? More tax breaks? I think we should raise corporate tax rates and drastically increase import taxes, maybe that would bring some jobs back to America.

    I worked for a major international chemical company I know from first hand experience what happens when they do not have to adhere to regs.

    Obama care he should have pushed the bill through with a public option and not let the republicans water it down, you republicans have a lot of nerve calling it Obamacare

    There is a bill in Texas kind of like the watered down republican obamacare bill only it's an immigration bill House Bill 1202

    Proposed Texas law to immigrants: Keep out ... or clean my house - CNN

    Now, a Texas state representative offers more clarity. Republican Debbie Riddle has proposed a bill that creates harsh punishments for those who hire illegal immigrants. House Bill 1202 calls for up to two years in prison and up to $10,000 in fines.

    So far, so good. We'll never stop illegal immigration until we start tackling it at the root by going after U.S. employers.

    But wait. There's a loophole in Riddle's bill: The person doing the hiring has to be acting "intentionally, knowingly or recklessly." That's too many adverbs for me. You'll note that hiring an illegal immigrant is already a federal offense under the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act, but one of the reasons that the law's employer sanctions are rarely enforced is because -- under the statute -- an employer has to act "knowingly," and that's hard for a prosecutor to prove.

    So, for 25 years, employers caught red-handed hiring illegal immigrants have claimed not to know what they were doing.

    And, in the provision of Riddle's proposal that is causing the most outrage, there is also an odd exemption: The person hiring an illegal immigrant is in the clear if he or she is doing so "for the purpose of obtaining labor or other work to be performed exclusively or primarily at a single-family residence."

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program today, not the one originally intended but the one that has transformed into SS of today.
    Silliness aside, you're still not addressing the facts. SS does not match the definition of a ponzi scheme. Silliness by you will not chnage that.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    EarlzP;1059789450]10 years of the Bush Tax cuts just didn't seem to create any thing but outsourcing of American jobs and you want to give big business what? More tax breaks? I think we should raise corporate tax rates and drastically increase import taxes, maybe that would bring some jobs back to America.
    Please feel free to put the Bush/Obama record side by side using averages. Even with the terrible 2008 the results are Bush by a wide margin in positive results. Seems you have a problem with keeping more of your own money and want to reward the politicians that created the 14.6 trillion dollar debt. by all means do just that, send in more of your own money. How many times do you want to tax corporation income?

    I worked for a major international chemical company I know from first hand experience what happens when they do not have to adhere to regs.
    We have enough laws on the books to prevent problems you are concerned about so how about letting private business do their jobs growing their business and hiring new employees. Like all liberals you seem to not understand most hires come from small businesses not those evil corporations and they are being hurt by Obamanomics

    Obama care he should have pushed the bill through with a public option and not let the republicans water it down, you republicans have a lot of nerve calling it Obamacare
    You have a lot of nerve supporting a law that has no hope of lowering healthcare costs and destroys jobs

    There is a bill in Texas kind of like the watered down republican obamacare bill only it's an immigration bill House Bill 1202
    Let me know when it passes.

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