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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why do have to be condescending when someone disagrees with you? I understand that you don't like Social Security and don't like being forced to contribute, I get that. But being forced to contribute doesn't make it a Ponzi scheme. For someone who says they ran a million dollars, I am surprised how ignorant you are on the subject. Read Boo's post above.
    I wish he would. And I hope he understands and responses appropreately, . .. with no squirrels.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Nothing you have said proves that it doesn't have the characteristics of a ponzi scheme and that really is the point. You contributed your money to SS and your money because more was coming in that going out was put on budget and spent on something other than SS. LBJ and Congress made that legal but your money is gone, period, so you will get your money when some other worker pays it and when the govt. cashes in the IOU's by borrowing or printing money. Where do you think that money is going to come from to buy back those IOU's?
    Yeah, it has been given. SS is not an investment in which you hope to have your money make money. It cannot be a Ponzi scheme. Read the links.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Umm, even without government spending, our economy had recovered from the Great Depression by 1941...


    1938 -6.5%
    1939 6.8%
    1940 10.1%
    1941 23.2%
    1942 12.3%
    1943 -8.5%
    1944 3.2%
    1945 -2.6%
    1946 30.2%
    1947 30.2%
    1948 15.2%
    1949 -2.8%
    Typical, anything to divert from the Obama Job's Plan, poor economic performance, and disastrous Simulus One, but no big you have your job and nothing else matters. How about those Obama tax cuts, Sheik. Now why would he do that since tax cuts are an expense to the govt. and will do nothing to create jobs according to liberals? But since you want to make this about SS, why would you support cutting payroll taxes which fund Social Security. Isn't it in big enough trouble now? Oh, well, what are a few more trillion in IOU's?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Nothing you have said proves that it doesn't have the characteristics of a ponzi scheme and that really is the point. You contributed your money to SS and your money because more was coming in that going out was put on budget and spent on something other than SS. LBJ and Congress made that legal but your money is gone, period, so you will get your money when some other worker pays it and when the govt. cashes in the IOU's by borrowing or printing money. Where do you think that money is going to come from to buy back those IOU's?
    Jesus Conservative, a ****ing pig has many characteristics of human being, but they are not human beings, are they?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yeah, it has been given. SS is not an investment in which you hope to have your money make money. It cannot be a Ponzi scheme. Read the links.
    You were forced into SS and were told that your money would be there for you when you retired. That was a lie after LBJ put the surplus on budget. That makes someone else responsible for funding your SS when you retire as your money is gone. How can you defend that? Those are the characteristics of a Ponzi scheme. Now of course "your" President has just requested extension of the Payroll tax cuts which fund SS. Since tax cuts don't create jobs and you want a solvent SS fund I am sure you will be telling Obama he is doing the wrong thing?

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Jesus Conservative, a ****ing pig has many characteristics of human being, but they are not human beings, are they?
    Continue to be a brainwashed liberal which suits you well and is much easier than thinking

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    You were forced into SS and were told that your money would be there for you when you retired. That was a lie after LBJ put the surplus on budget. That makes someone else responsible for funding your SS when you retire as your money is gone. How can you defend that? Those are the characteristics of a Ponzi scheme. Now of course "your" President has just requested extension of the Payroll tax cuts which fund SS. Since tax cuts don't create jobs and you want a solvent SS fund I am sure you will be telling Obama he is doing the wrong thing?
    No, they are not the characteristics of a ponzi scheme. I gave you a link explaining a ponzi scheme. All mistakes, even lies, are no ponzi schemes. Ponzi schemes fit a specfici definition. It requires you investing you money for the purpose of that money, your money, to make money for you. And the person committing the scheme knows for the begining that there is no possible way for your money to make money.

    As for Obama, another issue (squirrel), Obama like too many bow to political pressures. He seeks compromise. But at least it is a targeted compromise, in which something has to be done to earn the cut.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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    Continue to be a brainwashed liberal which suits you well and is much easier than thinking

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You wouldn't know what honesty is as I have misrepresented anything, whether or not the number is cumulative or not isn't the question, it still has been over 1 million as an average during the Obama term and the fact remains discouraged workers are dropped from the unemployment roles making the unemployment numbers look better than they are. You simply want to divert from the FACT that Obama spent over a trillion dollars and still has a net job loss, declining labor force, 25 plus million unemployed and under employed workers and there is nothing you can say to change that.
    Your record of dishonesty is here for all to see ... your posts speak for themselves.

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    Re: Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    So history is another subject you know little about. Is that the way SS was intended? You aren't forced to put your money into a bank but you are forced to "contribute" to SS. Keep buying the leftwing rhetoric and by the way, thanks for "contributing" to my SS check. Glad you are helping me get my "investment" back.
    Umm, like SS, the money you get back was put in the bank by someone else since the bank uses the money you put in to make them more money.

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